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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:08 am 
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wow, the box art on the Airfix kit is absolutely horrible! What is up with the nose contours, and the size and thrust line of the spinner? It looks like one of those buchons that has been modified to more closely resemble a true '109.



Oh my god, here is another one. And it even says new on the shipping crate.... :shock: Don't see any Austrian price tag though...! :wink:

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Would have preferred this, the older box art, but the other one came cheap on eBay!

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Aircraft Mech Paul wrote:
And given the state of Desert Rat...maybe that is it...but then again...who knows wether or not...if I have learned anything about this life...I have learned that literally anything is possible.

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Even time travel????

Now THAT'S mind-spinning material right there.


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Col. Rohr,

Thanks for the help in clarifying it for me. Although I must admit, I hadn't heard the part about the B-25 in question. Nice story all around. Is the Mitchell, at some point anyway, a viable project down the road or is it too far gone in respect to being a "parts" aircraft for other restorations ?

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I'd love to see this one be as true as the sun coming up, but if any of you have read any of the Clive Cussler novels about the adventures of Dirk Pitt, you may recall that in one of the books he found a cache of ME-262 fighters sitting on their gear in a cave in Europe. And that was a work of fiction.

I thought I herd somewhere that the germans had built undergroud hangers and after the war the allies found some of the hangers and tourched the a/c inside.

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there was talk not long ago that under a runway in germany were hangers with possible ju88's with bomb loads
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Would be nice to see a new 109F in a crate.... as if it wouldn't have surfaced by now?

The person behind this bollocks should be tied to a tree a lashed with a rather large twig! :evil:
We hear crappy rumours almost yearly. Last year there was a new "find", a cache of latewar fuelled and loaded Luftwaffe aircraft in undergound hangers @ Tempelhof Airport in Berlin.
There was another story too about an underground facility somewhere in Germany too. If these existed they would have been accessed years ago as a complete latewar German fighter would be worth twice as much as an Allied one probably.

Probably the most decent German airframe found recently was the Fw Weihe found at the bottom of the French lake, non?


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...If you haven't heard a good rumor by 10:00 AM, start one. Here's one. About 10 years before I was born, about 15 miles from my house, there was a 3000 foot grass strip which had crates of B17 parts, a few Wildcats, and a B17, C47 or two. This is absolutely true, no lies, and confirmed by several aviators. But I'm not telling where it is...

Now that this is on line, it must be true, right? Because nobody ever posted anything on the internet that wasn't true?

Man, this is just like the boy scouts. Now how about doing a skit about "The Secret Papers," or a game of soggy cookie?


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No doubt that lots of rumours abound on the internet, altough I do believe this particular subject began with an add in Trade-A-Plane. An internet rumour and a bogus (assuming it is bogus) add are quite distinct animals.


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I'm very sceptical but why put an add in TAP as it is very expensive. Probably end up some scammer trying to get you to send money up front to rip you off. Don


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I, too, find this Bf-109 story hard to believe.

Still, I remember when the rumors that somebody was going to tunnel under a glacier and recover new P-38's and B-17's sounded preposterous.


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I called Trade-A-Plane today and asked for a spec sheet on an ad that had C/o trade a plane on it and she said "You mean the Messerschmitt?" I said have you had a lot of calls and she laughed and said "uh, Yeah!" . Basically you mail a request for info with your phone number, and the owner will call you at his leisure to discuss the aircraft offered.


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I wonder what TAP policys is on stuff ;like this. I mean do the folks whoa re putting the Advert in have to show proof to them before they allow such an add.

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None of the Crossville Gals ever asked me for proof.

But then, I never had anything fancy for sale.

Treat this like any other “Blind Ad” in a print publication.

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Parts of a B-25 were recovered, along with the B-17E
"Desert Rat". As far as it being a viable restoration, well,
it would take work. A lot of it.

The wings, rear fuselage, and tail are there.
The nose is missing, and the spars would need
to be rebuilt. The plane was basically drawn and
quartered into 5' x 5' pieces.
It is a B-25D model, and as far as I know,
is not covered in any survivor's list.

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