The Cavanaugh MIG 21 is NOT for sale

euroco · **Posted:** Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:11 am

Now i see you still believe that they are not for sale , well you are wrong 100%, so what is that saying he who laughs last laughs longest :lol:

visit us i wil call anyones bluff

www.euroco-corp.com

Eric Friedebach · **Posted:** Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:20 pm

Thanks for the smilies.

Steve S · **Posted:** Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:12 pm

No one doubts you have the Migs for sale, this is not the issue. But you DO NOT HAVE THE ONE belonging to Cavanaugh, which is the one you were advertisting. The bigger issue here is not what you are selling, which no one really cares all that much about, but the ILLEGAL use of the copyrighted material belonging to Cavanaugh in your original add.

It looks like a fool will laugh at anything.

Eric Friedebach · **Posted:** Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:45 pm

People conduct their affairs in different ways around the world.

That being said, the business model of coming on to the premier discussion site for warbirds and antagonizing potential customers makes no sense.

He’s not selling jets, he’s selling things like the EUROCO Corporation Stinger DSI (Legal intelligent Radar detector).

Quote:

DSI Computer
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DSI Computer The 'DSI Computer' is a modular computer system for motorists, consisting of a Computer Center and multiple connecting modules. The entire machine is operated via the 'Memory Display' module, a 'Graphic User Interface'.

The DSI is highly future proof, not least because of its modular design: to activate a new development, all the user needs to do is to click on a new module in the Computer Center. Furthermore, the PC Interface software can be used to download updates from this website. All these features combined means the DSI is a valuable investment for years to come.

World exclusive: Military precision in your car The Spectrum Analyzer is by far the most eye-catching module. This unique Stinger invention is based on the 'laboratory spectrum analyzer', a relatively large and expensive device used by institutes that deal with professional and applied scientific research for precision measurements and analyses in the field of microwave signals. Due to its compact size, the Stinger Spectrum Analyzer can be quickly and easily built into your car, and is reasonably inexpensive. But that's not all. Our engineers have been able to combine this Spectrum Analyzer with a 'patch antenna', based on military technology, applied in F-16 fighter jets and intelligent Rocket Launcher Systems. The 'patch antenna guarantees not only razor-sharp precision but is also an essential aid for the extreme sensitivity of the DSI.

I mean, the combination radar detector/voice scrambler/garage door opener is cool and everything, but what I really want is a portable EMP generator.

Just for laughs.

EDIT: Fixed broken link.

needle · **Posted:** Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:13 pm

Quote:

No one doubts you have the Migs for sale, this is not the issue. But you DO NOT HAVE THE ONE belonging to Cavanaugh, which is the one you were advertisting. The bigger issue here is not what you are selling, which no one really cares all that much about, but the ILLEGAL use of the copyrighted material belonging to Cavanaugh in your original add.

Steve,

I couldn't have put it better myself...........
although I did try, very politely, back in February :roll:

Needle

euroco · **Posted:** Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:07 am

You know something what is with people , they always think that people from former eastern block are shady , well i am afraid they are no shadier than British , french , german , spanish , and even American for that matter , My Wife I s from the Czech Republic , Yes and i am Scottish , If whe want to shoot from the hip , then lets go, my opinoin i Hate English as they give us a terrible reputation in all Europe , take the cosat del sol the biggest open prison in the world if you ask me .
Here i find people to be up front , they are not afraid to work , and when you do a deal its a deal , yes ofcourse there are the scam merchants , but they are everywhere. We have set up a buisness, where i am located on the ground making sure what people buy they get .
Please forgive out of all the transactions we do the most volitile are Americans, WHY on these chat rooms and ebays etc etc , they all hide behind little code name and make there little comments , why is that what are they afraid of , are they all wanted by the FBI or the IRS maybe.
me myself i am transparent i have nothing to hide , i am proud of name and being Scottish , now if any one is interested in Migs etc Tanks or anything Military then ask me but first show me who you are are ?
Now this all started dew to a article that was put on Ebay , the purpose was to give abreif description ie history , god tell me about making mountain out of mole hills Jesus grow up.
now if any of you lot have balls i cant answer that you will need to check yourself call me or email me and i will be more than happy to give you goverment flight logs , parts lists , more details photos of mine etc etc

Oh and one finnal thing someone was on about c130 etc we are working on behalf of a company who hold all permits licences to sell these C130s oh yes there 5 , and the owner privte very true , these planes have just come of lease to a goverment and he wants to sell them , now if you want to phone the state dept go ahead ask them to call me , now last thing
Our company is a offshore international trading company , i myself are classified as a expact , the company has a UK address for all correspondence etc 100% legal you see i am a none UK resident , thus i acn do this , you poor soles cant as the IRS follows you ass where ever you , go so please when you have the correct facts shout till then shu up and grow up
The very best regards
from
Grant Ryeback pd.lmn. :drink3:

oh we have the original Budwieser here not the copy sugar they drink in the US

O.P. · **Posted:** Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:38 am

Scottish dudes speak english, Right?

I ain't been to Scottland, or England for that matter, but that kind O accent wouldn't even work good on the mars colony.

Eurodude, I hate to say it, but you outdo Rob in the unintelligible "English" typing department. No one can do that. That leads me to believe you don't be speakin english first, and you're a bad typer/ist.

I'm Scottish too, just like everyone else on international Macallan/Knockando/Speyside day. Just like I'm Irish on St Patricks day and Chinese on the real new years day.

I'd crack on the fact that you're here, and responding the way you are, but you did all the fun work for me.

Thats cool Eurodude. Whenever you get a line on YAK-3's, IL2's, and sunken Stuka's, post here first, Please. Pictures. We need Pictures. Your Pictures. I can see Cavanaugh's aircraft elsewhere.

I like ya Eurodude, you made my day a little brighter. Keep posting baby!

XXXOOOO
O.P.
Orv Bob
Orvis

euroco · **Posted:** Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:07 am

Yeah well i never bothered with school i just thought i would go out and make money, everybody to there own , yes i hate writing but its a must nevertheless i speak Spanish Russian , but bollocks to writting it , i have no axe to grind with anyone , i am long time dead, so i get it on with it , i have very bad Dyslexia , well bollocks i live with it. it does not stop me
The way some people go on in here they world came to an end. sad anyway enough of that.
A Yak i know where one is i have some info on it i will send you the info just show i not that greedy , if you buy it send me a malt min 12 year

Grant

ps need a email address i will send the info oh this year there is some L39s getting released

euroco · **Posted:** Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:15 am

It is with one T only i maybe wrong , scottish is 2

Grant

i am not that bad

cj-ld50 · **Posted:** Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:58 pm

Needle and Doug,

Does CFM have a written copyright to the photos on the webpage? If so, that would be the way to go with eBay. Tell eBay that photos on their website are in violation of copyrights, then they will probably halt the auction (or at least remove the photos). After looking at the CFM page on the MiG-21 and some other pages, I would suggest a photo credit and "C" symbol by each picture. This won't stop all people from using the photos for commercial gain, but it helps with websites and web based auctions because the ISP's don't want to become tangled in copyright violations.

It may also be worthwhile to change the website pictures to ones for which CFM has a firm copyright. Let me know if I can help here as CFM (Kevin) already has a copyright release for my photos.

Photographic copyright infringement is common on eBay. I recently notified Boeing of an individual on eBay selling photos with a copyright owned by Boeing.

Regards,
Curt
cj-ld50

euroco · **Posted:** Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:20 pm

okay smart ass you have looked into my company where is it registered how long has it been registered how many directors , m

Get a life you guys god i bet half or even more, have not been out of the usa ,

Anyway i really enjoy , and yes to the others read into copyright law and data protection some countries it does not exsist thus these people can take from you what they want,
have a good day

Cheers

Grant
ps once again i am just drinking a nice budwieser a real one not that copy sugar you have over there,

You know its very true most of you guys come to europe well very little as about 90% dont have passports , to find out where you really come from

sorry got to go my real beer is getting warm

euroco · **Posted:** Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:51 pm

O.P. wrote:

Scottish dudes speak english, Right?

I ain't been to Scottland, or England for that matter, but that kind O accent wouldn't even work good on the mars colony.

Eurodude, I hate to say it, but you outdo Rob in the unintelligible "English" typing department. No one can do that. That leads me to believe you don't be speakin english first, and you're a bad typer/ist.

I'm Scottish too, just like everyone else on international Macallan/Knockando/Speyside day. Just like I'm Irish on St Patricks day and Chinese on the real new years day.

I'd crack on the fact that you're here, and responding the way you are, but you did all the fun work for me.

Thats cool Eurodude. Whenever you get a line on YAK-3's, IL2's, and sunken Stuka's, post here first, Please. Pictures. We need Pictures. Your Pictures. I can see Cavanaugh's aircraft elsewhere.

I like ya Eurodude, you made my day a little brighter. Keep posting baby!

XXXOOOO
O.P.
Orv Bob
Orvis

Oh just for your information scottish do not speak english they never had and they never will ,

Look at a book called Robbie Burns

I hate english

oh yes one guy cant read i never said i had L39s i said i know that some are getting realeased from some goverment this year when and how many i dont know yet .

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:13 pm

I think you ALL need to chill out and get back on track and start talking warbirds again. I don't see where the ebay ad was a attempt to decieve or defraud the museum and I believe that's the spirit of the copywrite laws. The poster just was too lazy put something together on his own and cut and pasted instead.
I actually had one of my photos downloaded and used has the cover label for a CD-Rom of AT-6 manuals. Now that's a diiferent story.
Rob, you should concentrate on the positive and fun side of things instead of trying to police the world.
Just my 2 cents.........flame suit on!!

euroco · **Posted:** Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:35 am

Dear Sir
What a pleasure to see that someone on this sight see,s it for what it is worth , yes you could be correct,!!!! at that time i was lazy to write some article up , neverthelless there was no Fraud intended, i feel as that some people here should stop trying to police the world. Now you have no idea who i am, yes of course you can make your little snide comments, Now regards to other items that are on our website etc so what. they are all correct .

Now I think the gentleman who wrote before me,!!! is correct ,take note to his statement.

Leave it alone gentlemen !!!!!! ah these planes are not in the US none of them plus all aircraft are 100% de mil,

For terms and cond , read our website simple

Now Photos information i have no problem with people using mine i have hundreds that we have taken , feel free to ask for some.

So my point is clear if anyone wants to have help or details on aircraft , or parts , then you can go to our site and threw the site you can ask .

I BID YOU ALL GOOD DAY

Grant

FG1D Pilot · **Joined:** Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:42 am **Posts:** 450

I think it has gone on enough. But to your comment about not defrauding the museum. If you look at the first post, the museum did get some questions about if we were selling the Mig. We have had this happen many times in ads. The Wixers were informed that it wasn't for sale and ebay was informed that the info was not correct. That's what you do to protect your stuff. The rest just turned into a rant.

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