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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:34 am 
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As a kid @1979/80 or so I recalled 2 or 3 fuselages along the front fence at Planes of Fame Chino. I thought they may have been A-20's? maybe A-26's? Could this have been this one?


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Warbird Kid wrote:
That's great news to hear. Rod is certainly putting his money where his mouth is.

Maybe some insurance money, too...

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RyanShort1 wrote:
Warbird Kid wrote:
That's great news to hear. Rod is certainly putting his money where his mouth is.

Maybe some insurance money, too...


Pretty much the same thing considering where the insurance money comes from.

Also, I suspect some operators are self insured. They have the necessarily liability insurance, but cover the damage risk themselves.
I have a friend who covers his antique collection that way, since he does his own labor, it makes sense.

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Are there any updates on Stewart?

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As a kid @1979/80 or so I recalled 2 or 3 fuselages along the front fence at Planes of Fame Chino. I thought they may have been A-20's? maybe A-26's? Could this have been this one?

Those were Tallichet’s. One was a combat vet, this was stored at Pima recently. It is not the airframe on dsisplay. . He also obtained another one from Nicaragua, which unfortunately was sold to Russia a few years ago , when no US buyers stepped forward. He also had several A26s over the years so it could have been a couple of those also. I just double checked on the Goodall site and Tallichet did have these two A20’s at this time at Chino.


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The A-20s in 1983 - 44-20, the Nicaraguan one that went to Russia :( :
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Lynn Allen wrote:
Are there any updates on Stewart?

I was about to ask the same - great news about the aircraft but I'm hoping he's recovering well.

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I've seen some really good NTSB prelims and that is not one of them.

Really unnecessary comments for a prelim regarding the airplane exceeding recommended bank angle.

This wasn't some weekend Bonanza pilot.

Stewart clearly had a problem and felt he needed to get the airplane on the ground ASAP.


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I've seen some really good NTSB prelims and that is not one of them.

Really unnecessary comments for a prelim regarding the airplane exceeding recommended bank angle.

This wasn't some weekend Bonanza pilot.

Stewart clearly had a problem and felt he needed to get the airplane on the ground ASAP.


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The purpose of the investigation, and therefore of the report, is to ascertain (and state) the facts and learn from what has occurred. Especially with an aeroplane of this vintage, the documentation about the type may not be up to modern standards. The 15 degree max AOB is a recommendation and the preliminary report just states the fact that it was exceeded. It does not draw any conclusions from it, as it is too early to do that, and the skill of the pilot or his intentions are not mentioned either as those are not clear facts right now.

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The purpose of the investigation, and therefore of the report, is to ascertain (and state) the facts and learn from what has occurred. Especially with an aeroplane of this vintage, the documentation about the type may not be up to modern standards. The 15 degree max AOB is a recommendation and the preliminary report just states the fact that it was exceeded. It does not draw any conclusions from it, as it is too early to do that, and the skill of the pilot or his intentions are not mentioned either as those are not clear facts right now.

It was a data point that did not need to be included in a prelim. That is my point. I am familiar with the NTSB and their process.


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Fearless Tower wrote:
I've seen some really good NTSB prelims and that is not one of them.

Really unnecessary comments for a prelim regarding the airplane exceeding recommended bank angle.

This wasn't some weekend Bonanza pilot.

Stewart clearly had a problem and felt he needed to get the airplane on the ground ASAP.



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