Texas Locator

[Cvairwerks]

Mike: #60 is pretty easy as it's my airplane. It no longer is in Roanoke. I just finished moving the last pieces of equipment and box of parts from the hangar to the house tonight. We are in the process of shop design for our place in Arkansas and will be starting construction this summer we hope...Depends on what the company ends up doing on my disability and potential retirement.

Dad and I have moved equipment, parts, airplanes, tools and everything else under the sun that was in the hangar over the last three weeks. Despite all the stuff that got tossed into the trash and recycle bins, we would still be able to fill 4 tractor trailers plus part of a big flat bed trailer. And to to think it was all stuffed into a 42' Tee hangar.

[Old SAR pilot]

Is there a F-84 displayed at Bergstrom (the airport), or just the F-4 (not counting fire training aids). I am going to note the fire aids in the "private" comments, but they won't appear in the Locator. Fire aids are usually unaccessible and often don't exist very long.

Mike,

Can't say about Austin/Bergstrom. All the aircraft listed are at Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo. As for the aircraft at the fire school, they are all quite healthy, none are burned - they have a large steel mockup in the fire pits for that. The others are used for familiarization/crew extraction/emergency procedures trainers. They are accessible to the public for viewing whenever the Fire Academy has an open house.

Also, I omitted the F-15B that is also at the Fire Academy (It was airlifted in to the base via a Texas ANG CH-47 from Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls).

As for other aircraft at Goodfellow, the F-100 that used to be in front of the base Hq was sent to Shaw AFB, SC.

The T-28 on display at GAFB came from the former Reese AFB in Lubbock, the BT-13 came from NMUSAF stocks, and there is no T-6.

[Tulio]

King:

Thanks for the info.

I will keep it in mind the next time I drive down US-90 to Uvalde!

Saludos,


Tulio

[Old SAR pilot]

Mike,

Another interesting list of Texas Warbirds, circa 2003....You may have aready seen it, but here it is:

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZLE2U3 ... ac#PPP1,M1

Hooo.....Try and remember THAT one to re-type it!!!

[mrhenniger]

I have received many emails and this has been a very successful WIX thread. In short I have been swamped with input, so I am not going to reply to each message individually.

There are still a number of questions, so if you are from Texas and have a few minutes to spare, please take a look at the revised “Need Help” list below.

BTW... The list below doesn’t exactly match the Locator. After tonight’s upload they should be in sync.

Regards,

Mike


EDIT: The "Need Help" list has been moved to my most recent post.

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[mrhenniger]

Edit... Double Post

[King]

#33: There is a T-33 in Del Rio. It is possibly in front of the city hall. Can you confirm? If so where exactly is it?
#69: The Uvalde Aviation Museum is at Garner Field. Where exactly?
#78: There are two T-28s and a T-33 in a FBO hangar at Garner Field in Uvalde. Which hangar?
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#33 I answered this a couple of months ago, but it is on Hwy 90 in front of the Civic Center in Del Rio. The CC is located in the Northwest side of the city of Del Rio.

#69 Answered in a previous post.

#78, Answered in a previous post. There was the second T-28 that was located in the Museum. It was destroyed in a fatal accident here in Uvalde on 4-4-02. This aircraft was not related to the Mustang, T-28C and T-33.

[mrhenniger]

#33 I answered this a couple of months ago, but it is on Hwy 90 in front of the Civic Center in Del Rio. The CC is located in the Northwest side of the city of Del Rio.

I must have missed that post. I have trouble keeping up with everything posted on WIX. I'll take a look for it tomorrow.

#69 Answered in a previous post.

Aaahhh right... I forgot to update #69 in the "need help" list. What is should have read as was, "Which hangar is the museum?".

#78, Answered in a previous post. There was the second T-28 that was located in the Museum. It was destroyed in a fatal accident here in Uvalde on 4-4-02. This aircraft was not related to the Mustang, T-28C and T-33.

Which hangar is the FBO?

Mike

[Ztex]

#27: Is there a F-16 displayed someplace in Dallas? If so where exactly is it?

Frontiers of Flight Museum...it is F-16 ship #8...Green Lizard test vehicle...
75-0752


#32: Is there an OV-10 displayed in Saginaw? If so where?

NO...there is one at Meacham in the OV-10 Assn. at the Vintage Flying Museum.

[Tulio]

Hi, Mike!

#2: The Rio Grande Valley Wing is at the Brownsville/ South Padre Is. International Airport. Which hangar?

955 South Minnessota Ave., Brownsville, TX 78521

25 54' 12.80" N

97 25' 55.04" W


#11: The Central Texas Wing Museum is at the San Marcos Airport. Which hangar?

29 53'11.74" N
97 51'46.94" W



#23: Is there a UH-1 at a VFW in Conroe? If so where exactly?

Yes there is. You have the photos already. Only thing is, I do not have the street address for it. I have searched Google Earth, but could not find the location. I recall it to be just one or two blocks East from I-45 Northbound.

#33: There is a T-33 in Del Rio. It is possibly in front of the city hall. Can you confirm? If so where exactly is it?

Hwy 377 and Highland St.

29 23'01.40" N
100 54'15.73" W


#42: Is there an H-19 displayed at the Rio Hondo Airport in Harlingen. If so where exactly?

Rio Hondo is not in Harlingen.

Yes, there was a derelict H-19 at the Texas Aviation Museum, Rio Hondo Location, and I have pictures, if you want them. The museum has closed and some of the aircraft went to Stinson Field, San Antonio.

This where the H-19 USED to be (next to the hangars and under the trees):


26 13'48.93" N
97 33'39.24" W

#47: There is a F-101 in a storage compound at Ellington Field in Pasadena. Where exactly?

Not in Pasadena, though. I believe it is more South Houston than Pasadena.

Not a storage compound, but actually the compound is the grounds for the Texas Air National Guard in Ellington Field.

These are some of the aircraft on display at Ellington; the F-101 does not show on Google Earth, but I have the photos:

F-16:
29 36'42.79" N
95 10'16.66" W

T-33:
29 36'52.40" N
95 10'16.97" W

F-4 (65-0749):
29 36'51.89" N
95 10'13.14" W

F-106 (56-1252):
29 36'59.45" N
95 10'18.60" W

F-84: In front of the American Legion Post (#??):
29 36'06.42" N
95 10'41.46" W

KC-135 (??) "Vomit Comet"
29 36'10.17" N
95 10'27.74" W

Super Guppy:
29 36'32.60" N
95 10'03.95" W

#50: Apparently there is a T-33 in a hangar at Cypress River. Where exactly?

Maybe the third time'll be the charm:

Lat: 32 44' 34.11" N
Long:94 18' 15.32" W

I have photos of the wings and wing-tip tanks outside of the hangar, while the fuselage is inside the hangar indicated by coordinates above.

#73: Apparently there are two aircraft displayed at the Easterwood Field Airport near College Station, including an UH-1. Where exactly?

There were four CONFIRMED (with photo) derelict UH-1Hs. Location though, escapes me.


#74: There is a pole mounted F-86 located on the feeder road of US-75 North of Dallas. Where exactly is it?

Actually - my fault - it is WAAAAAY North of Dallas, in Sherman TX:

American Legion Post 29,

33 38'53.64" N
96 36'39.73" W


#78: There are two T-28s and a T-33 in a FBO hangar at Garner Field in Uvalde. Which hangar?

There WERE two T-28s and a T-33, when I saw them back in 2001. Situation must have changed by now.

Saludos,


Tulio

[mrhenniger]

#27: Is there a F-16 displayed someplace in Dallas? If so where exactly is it?

Frontiers of Flight Museum...it is F-16 ship #8...Green Lizard test vehicle...
75-0752

Thanks.

#32: Is there an OV-10 displayed in Saginaw? If so where?

NO...there is one at Meacham in the OV-10 Assn. at the Vintage Flying Museum.

Thanks again.

#2: The Rio Grande Valley Wing is at the Brownsville/ South Padre Is. International Airport. Which hangar?

955 South Minnessota Ave., Brownsville, TX 78521
25 54' 12.80" N 97 25' 55.04" W

Got it!

#11: The Central Texas Wing Museum is at the San Marcos Airport. Which hangar?

29 53'11.74" N 97 51'46.94" W

Excellant.

#23: Is there a UH-1 at a VFW in Conroe? If so where exactly?

Yes there is. You have the photos already. Only thing is, I do not have the street address for it. I have searched Google Earth, but could not find the location. I recall it to be just one or two blocks East from I-45 Northbound.

I think the shadow at this location is the Huey... 30 19 21.53 N 95 28 18.09 W

#33: There is a T-33 in Del Rio. It is possibly in front of the city hall. Can you confirm? If so where exactly is it?

Hwy 377 and Highland St. 29 23'01.40" N 100 54'15.73" W

Got it!

#42: Is there an H-19 displayed at the Rio Hondo Airport in Harlingen. If so where exactly?

Rio Hondo is not in Harlingen.

Near by then. Thanks for being precise.

Yes, there was a derelict H-19 at the Texas Aviation Museum, Rio Hondo Location, and I have pictures, if you want them. The museum has closed and some of the aircraft went to Stinson Field, San Antonio.

This where the H-19 USED to be (next to the hangars and under the trees): 26 13'48.93" N 97 33'39.24" W

Check. I will add a note to the entry asking for someone to confirm it is still there.

#47: There is a F-101 in a storage compound at Ellington Field in Pasadena. Where exactly?

Not in Pasadena, though. I believe it is more South Houston than Pasadena.

Not a storage compound, but actually the compound is the grounds for the Texas Air National Guard in Ellington Field.

These are some of the aircraft on display at Ellington; the F-101 does not show on Google Earth, but I have the photos:

F-16:
29 36'42.79" N
95 10'16.66" W

T-33:
29 36'52.40" N
95 10'16.97" W

F-4 (65-0749):
29 36'51.89" N
95 10'13.14" W

F-106 (56-1252):
29 36'59.45" N
95 10'18.60" W

F-84: In front of the American Legion Post (#??):
29 36'06.42" N
95 10'41.46" W

KC-135 (??) "Vomit Comet"
29 36'10.17" N
95 10'27.74" W

Super Guppy:
29 36'32.60" N
95 10'03.95" W

Is the super guppy static?

The F-84 is at the American Legion Post 490. I just realized I had that one double counted.

#50: Apparently there is a T-33 in a hangar at Cypress River. Where exactly?

Maybe the third time'll be the charm: Lat: 32 44' 34.11" N Long:94 18' 15.32" W

I have photos of the wings and wing-tip tanks outside of the hangar, while the fuselage is inside the hangar indicated by coordinates above.

Now charmed.

#73: Apparently there are two aircraft displayed at the Easterwood Field Airport near College Station, including an UH-1. Where exactly?

There were four CONFIRMED (with photo) derelict UH-1Hs. Location though, escapes me.

No problem. If they are still there it shouldn't be too hard for someone to find them.

#74: There is a pole mounted F-86 located on the feeder road of US-75 North of Dallas. Where exactly is it?

Actually - my fault - it is WAAAAAY North of Dallas, in Sherman TX:

American Legion Post 29, 33 38'53.64" N 96 36'39.73" W

OK. I already had that one, but it is nice to eliminate the double count. That is another nice thing about the Locator, it provides a way to correct all of the bad info out there.

#78: There are two T-28s and a T-33 in a FBO hangar at Garner Field in Uvalde. Which hangar?

There WERE two T-28s and a T-33, when I saw them back in 2001. Situation must have changed by now.

Good point. The wording is important.



BTW... The list below doesn’t exactly match the Locator as it is right now. After tonight’s upload they should be in sync.

Regards,

Mike


EDIT: The "Need Help" list has been moved to my most recent post.

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[Tulio]

No charm, huh? : )

#45: Apparently there may be a F-86 and/or a F-102 is displayed at an airport near Houston. Where are they?

A more precise area / location would help with the search.

*****
Your coordinates are right on! That's the UH-1H in Conroe!!!!!!


#65: There may be a UH-1 and H-13 displayed at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio. Where?

I searched with Google Earth, with no positive results. I have seen the UH-1H (back in 2001)...

Saludos,


Tulio

[Tulio]

Mike:

A friend of mine used to have several T-28s at this location on Piper Road, Pasadena, TX.

He has moved elsewhere in the Pearland Area, and I have not been by his old place in a while:


29 33' 11.50" N
95 19' 38.63" W

And this is the F-100 Super Sabre at the Fayette Regional Airport, La Grange, TX:

29 54' 32.40" N
96 56' 50.24" W

Now, this is why you should never trust your memory (well, actually why I nevers should trust mine).

The Four UH-1Hs that I told you being derelict at a field near College Station, TX were actually here:

30 37' 55.07" N
96 28' 32.76" W

Saludos,


Tulio

[mrhenniger]

No charm, huh? : )

You gotta love WIX. Your typos are out there for everyone to read!

#45: Apparently there may be a F-86 and/or a F-102 is displayed at an airport near Houston. Where are they?

A more precise area / location would help with the search.

You are not kidding!!! Sometimes, or maybe often, that is all the information I have to go on. Finding them, even with Google Earth and good images, it can be a needle in a haystack search. When I include questions like that in the Locator is it usually a long shot hope that someone from the area will read it and confirm or deny the existence of the airframes. It does happen from time-to-time.

Your coordinates are right on! That's the UH-1H in Conroe!!!!!!

Excellent.

#65: There may be a UH-1 and H-13 displayed at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio. Where?

I searched with Google Earth, with no positive results. I have seen the UH-1H (back in 2001)…

Will add that comment.

A friend of mine used to have several T-28s at this location on Piper Road, Pasadena, TX.

He has moved elsewhere in the Pearland Area, and I have not been by his old place in a while: 29 33' 11.50" N 95 19' 38.63" W

Cool! This entry will be in tonight’s upload.

And this is the F-100 Super Sabre at the Fayette Regional Airport, La Grange, TX: 29 54' 32.40" N 96 56' 50.24" W

Already uploaded. Thanks anyway.

Now, this is why you should never trust your memory (well, actually why I nevers should trust mine).

The Four UH-1Hs that I told you being derelict at a field near College Station, TX were actually here: 30 37' 55.07" N 96 28' 32.76" W

Thanks!








BTW... The list below doesn’t exactly match the Locator as it is right now. After tonight’s upload they should be in sync.

Regards,

Mike


EDIT: The "Need Help" list has been moved to my most recent post.

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[skymstr02]

#3: The Big Thicket Wing is in Conroe at the Montgomery County Airport. Which hangar?

The Big thicket aircraft have been relocated to the Cleveland, TX airport, in the far western most hangar, nearest to the runway.