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Mudge I have been reading much the same thing in the early reviews. Although they pan most of the movie they save their worst for TC. Just not the right part for him. Not German enough.


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The reason it is released so late is because they had to redo all of TC German audio attempt and put in his regular voice :roll:

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Lynn Allen wrote:
The reason it is released so late is because they had to redo all of TC German audio attempt and put in his regular voice :roll:

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I hate to be the stickler here, but I don't think there was any attempt at doing German accents by any of the cast.

To paraphrase the director: "Why would they be speaking in a German accent??"

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A little artistic license is fine, if at the get the types right. (Snip) In that old TV show about Pappy Boyington, they would repeat again and again the combat maneuver where the one plane would do a right roll while the other would roll to the left - great video but not what a plane would do while chasing another in combat, and does anyone remember the really stupid plots? They are painful to watch.

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One thing to remember is that the size of the film negative has not got any bigger over the years (barring 70 mm Vista Vision). There is only so much that can be in the field of view of the 35mm camera and still make a decent image on the screen. The Israeli pilots in the Iron Eagle movies were very keen to show actual maneuvers on screen, the problem was turning to the vertical left the frame empty, so the directors had to tell them to do rolls so they would stay in frame just like Wings ala 1927.
Still with a little more imaginative editing they could make it look more realistic. As a thirteen year old boy I would watch BBBS and wonder why the trailing airplane didn't just shoot the rolling airplane.

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I can already assume what most here will think, but personally I'm not too interested in a WW2 aviation movie that usually relys on incorrect aircraft types if real warbirds are used. Unless this production goes with all CGI and accurate CGI, then you will see incorrect P-40 types used and even if the film is well made, people like me will, all through the film, be reminded of the obvious errors everytime we see a P-40 .... :cry:

BUT!!!!! ..... I'll give it a chance to entertain me .... :wink: :wink:

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Ya know, I thought the same thing about " authenticity " when I first saw Catch 22 and *winces* Hanover Street...all the Post war Hayes modifications on the B-25s, you know, the films are set in the 40s and the hayes modifications didn't happen until what? the 50's...but the thought becomes lost when you see them babies rolling down the runway toward the camera
I just hope that, as previously mentioned, that the movie generates additional interest in Warbirds, 8) and more are converted into seeing old airplanes needing preservation instead of cremation. :wink:

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Here's a couple of things I came across
New Regency has signed Christopher McQuarrie, co-writer and producer of Bryan Singer’s upcoming Valkyrie, to write Flying Tigers, a film based on the volunteer fighter squadron formed to help the Chinese fight the Japanese before the U.S. entered World War II.

According to Variety the project is being set up as potential star vehicle for Tom Cruise. The trades says the actor has been looking for a project like this, and several years ago was attached to The Few, a film about the first American pilots to battle Germans in WWII, with director Michael Mann and scribe John Logan.

http://themovingpicture.net/christopher ... ing-tigers

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Dove Canyon Films and
Moore Productions with Old Towne Films Present
A Stan Moore Film Clint Eastwood
"The Flying Tigers" Tom Cruise
Kate Winslett Kevin Costner Tom Hanks
Executive Producer Justine Case (sic) and George King
Producer James Cameron Music by Trevor Jones
Visual Effects by Industrial Light and Magic

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FWIW:

Claire L. Chennault was 48 years old in 1941 and David "Tex" Hill was 26.

Tommy Lee Jones is 62.

Tom Cruise is 46

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Not without precedent - Charles Lindbergh was 25 when he crossed the Atlantic; Jimmy Stewart was 49 when he played him in Spirit of St. Louis...

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Not without precedent - Charles Lindbergh was 25 when he crossed the Atlantic; Jimmy Stewart was 49 when he played him in Spirit of St. Louis...


Yup, :shock: he do make a point 8)

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Did they already make "The Few?"
I read the book and it was fascinating.

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I think CGI has come a long way just within the past few years, as seen in the link in this thread, I could easily see the correct P-40's used in a flying tigers film. But the only reason anyone making a film like this would take the time to use accurate P-40's is to satisfy people like us only, most movie goers would never know the difference. But I would ... darn! ... I'm still posting ... :wink: :wink:


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Well said Hellcat, I would rather have the story told correctly, than worry about the right type A/C. I just spoke to my friend Mazie Hill to wish her a Merry Christmas and she said she has not heard of this project, but Tex recieved lots of scripts and sent them back.

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Even with all the glaring inaccuracies of Memphis Belle its still one of my favorite movies. Since they are talking to museums with flying P-40s im pretty fired up. Plus, im sure they didnt destroy all those fiberglass P40s in Peal Harbor!


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What happened to the aluminum P-40 mockups at Mojave that were built for an aborted Flying Tigers movie several years ago?

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Ed L wrote:
FWIW:

Claire L. Chennault was 48 years old in 1941 and David "Tex" Hill was 26.

Tommy Lee Jones is 62.

Tom Cruise is 46


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