Tigercat in a new scheme vistits Planes of Fame

[CAPFlyer]

And we wonder why so many owners are leaving this site...

Give it a friggin' rest people. It may be an opinion, but you sure as heck don't express it as such.

A) It's great that owners are on the site. Like anyone else, I would presume that they can go and come, more or less within certain bounds, as they please. If my paultry opinion pierces their skin so much that they can't bear to read a page on the computer anymore, and they choose to take their ball and go home, I think that's less my problem and more theirs.

B) If I really thought whether any of the owners who may pop in from time to time here gave two pennies for my thoughts, I would probably still express them exactly as I have.

C) You've expressed your opinion on my opinion. Whether I agree or not, I still support your expression of it and for anything else warbird related here.

@51 fixer:

Your point about HJGB or the Spit I is well taken. I'm not saying that "La Patrona" is a specific airframe with a specific provenance that is worthy of displaying in a specific paint job. And I agree, there are likely reasons this particular paint job was chosen to which I am not privvy and honestly, don't believe any owner owes any of us out in the warbird following world an explanation. And I am thankful that this gentleman wants to spend his money on airplanes that I enjoy seeing fly (and which I don't have to spend money on). I thought I was clear on that, but if I wasn't, I hope I am now.

You did take a leap, however, I didn't take. I wasn't passing judgment on a collection of anyone or anyone's warbirds. I was expressing my opinion about the nose art on one photo of one airplane posted on a website of followers of a very narrow subset of aviation. My opinion was just that, primarily about the nose art and how it, in mine eyes only, seems completely disjointed from the history of this aircraft type. I fully agree that he could paint it pink with purple polka dots. Even so, I'd still say, "Hey, I think pink with purple polka dots is silly." And as I mentioned, I wouldn't expect the owner of this aircraft or any other to care about it.

As far as where to discuss tastefulness of nose art on vintage warbirds, I can't think of a better forum.

I'm sorry you didn't read my entire post. My issue wasn't that you had an opinion, my issue was the way you made a statement, not an expression of opinion. There is a huge difference. It may or may not "pierce their skin", but in the past on this form and others, there's been a basic level of decorum and, for lack of a better word at this moment, decency, that if you don't like something, you nicely say you don't like it and leave it at that. To make a statement that it is "horrible" and infer that he has no "taste" is not an opinion, it's a FLAME, pure and simple. It has no other purpose but to cause conflict. So, before telling us to "Flame away", maybe you should consider your own words and understand that they themselves meet the basic characteristics of a flame.

[gary1954]

ahem...ahem...for anyone that keeps a record, I don't give a tinkers Rats A double SS if the airframe rolled out in Day Glow Orange, as long as the sucker is safe, and airworthy, who am I to bemoan what fricking color it is...it survives and that is all I care about. She could have been restored as an Air Tanker, and that would be good enough for me...If an aircraft is entered in a contest as to most authenic, then that is a different story.
I say E-Nuff of going on about paint, and lets truely appreciate the fact that the guys with the big bucks are employing personnel to restore and maintain the aircraft that weren't built to last but through the war (if they were lucky). These were desposable items back then and hats off to those that have managed to recycle them for us to, through the kindness of their hearts and schedules, allow us to enjoy seeing them from time to time on the ramp or in the air.
I'm done now, so I will Stand down

[Dan K]

Rich nailed it

Still can't find any genuine WWII photos of warbirds with CAF tramp stamps for some reason...

Did someone say "tramp stamps"?

[gary1954]

Rich nailed it

Still can't find any genuine WWII photos of warbirds with CAF tramp stamps for some reason...

Did someone say "tramp stamps"?

Now That Is Funny

[Chappie]

This is a beautiful airplane and I would love to hear and see it fly. However, more and more I believe that a warbird should tell a story or be a flying history lesson. Examples would be MAM's FM-2 which wears a paint scheme that is true to the airframe and/or Gary Matthews' F4U-4 which is a flying history lesson about Thomas Hudner and Jesse Brown.

Chappie

[mrhenniger]

Subject: Tigercat in a new scheme vistits Planes of Fame

ahem...ahem...for anyone that keeps a record, I don't give a tinkers Rats A double SS if the airframe rolled out in Day Glow Orange, as long as the sucker is safe, and airworthy, who am I to bemoan what fricking color it is...it survives and that is all I care about. She could have been restored as an Air Tanker, and that would be good enough for me...If an aircraft is entered in a contest as to most authenic, then that is a different story.
I say E-Nuff of going on about paint, and lets truely appreciate the fact that the guys with the big bucks are employing personnel to restore and maintain the aircraft that weren't built to last but through the war (if they were lucky). These were desposable items back then and hats off to those that have managed to recycle them for us to, through the kindness of their hearts and schedules, allow us to enjoy seeing them from time to time on the ramp or in the air.
I'm done now, so I will Stand down

Well said!

I don't mind saying that my first impression of this new paint job was... WOW! I like it!

I sure hope Mr. Lewis brings this one to Reno!

Mike

[Steve S]

So this is or is not Big Bossman. Seems that a couple of post are inferring it is not.

[gary1954]

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That's the one that was owned by Daryl Greenamyer and recently sold to a new owner. It's in Chino to finish up the restoration.

Excuse me a moment while I ponder this Airframe here. As if stuck by a lightning bolt, It appears to me that this airframe has Fixed Wings....does it not ?
I am no expert when it comes to the Tigercat which is an awesome aeroplane, though based on its design appeares to be limited in seating, how many different models of the Tigercat were produced and why the variant in folding wings for storage aboard ship and fixed wings...Marine contract maybe...I dunno..I'm sure some one here can splain it.
Also, who is finishing the restoration?

[Iclo]

This post remember me two story:

- Stephen Grey said one day "It's always the guy who pay, who's right"

- The late Ray Hanna had a discussion on a French airshow with someone who didn't like the paintsheme of the plane he flew this day (a Spit i think)
Basically, the discusion was"
The little guy: "Your plane is painted completly wrong, it's horrible and it's a shame"
"...."
"There is never a plane wearing this paint in the history"
Ray Hanna : " It's not true, there is one"
"Witch one ?"
Ray Hanna: "This one" (pointing the plane.

In fact, the plane was painted correctly but with a code refering the initial of the owner.

So, yes these planes has ans was history, but they are also plane of someone.

Will we very happy if someone will come to explain us wich colour we are allowed to paint our living room ?

[Dwhart24]

Her and the Sea Fury taking off.

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.ph ... 2158351692

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.ph ... 8941686347

[StangStung]

^^^ Thanks for posting the links, those planes sound fantastic!

@CAPFlyer: I did read your post in its entirety (in fact, I quoted it in its entirety, as you noted) and took that you didn't like the way I expressed my opinion. I carefully considered it and I responded in what I thought was a thoughtful and straightforward way. I'd love to take it up with you over a beer after an airshow sometime, first rounds on me.

This is a beautiful airplane and I would love to hear and see it fly. However, more and more I believe that a warbird should tell a story or be a flying history lesson. Examples would be MAM's FM-2 which wears a paint scheme that is true to the airframe and/or Gary Matthews' F4U-4 which is a flying history lesson about Thomas Hudner and Jesse Brown.

Chappie

^^^I fall on this side of the line. Whenever I see a non-historic, highly personalized paintjob, I just think to myself, man...you've lost an opporunity to pass on something really important and fundamental about history. People aren't getting a slice of history as it was, but as someone would like it to have been. As mentioned earlier in the thread, it seems against the modern trend and maybe a step backwards.

[ZRX61]

That's the one that was owned by Daryl Greenamyer and recently sold to a new owner. It's in Chino to finish up the restoration.

Finish up the resto? It was in pieces all over the hangar floor a few weeks back. That looks like it might be the *other* one... & I don't mean Jim's other one, that's in Colorado at West Pac.

[ZRX61]

Will we very happy if someone will come to explain us wich colour we are allowed to paint our living room ?

Green Bay Packers colors of course

[Jack Cook]

I fall on this side of the line. Whenever I see a non-historic, highly personalized paintjob, I just think to myself, man...you've lost an opporunity to pass on something really important and fundamental about history. People aren't getting a slice of history as it was, but as someone would like it to have been. As mentioned earlier in the thread, it seems against the modern trend and maybe a step backwards.

BINGO!!
It bums me out to see a WWII ace's actualy P-51D covered with jellybeans