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Re: LSFM Galveston Gal down near Galveston TX

Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:52 pm

The final NTSB report is out. They recovered the SD card of the cockpit video and intercom chat. As a CFI I find this very eye opening, but know similar situations have happened before. Not always fatal in every situation, but they can happen in an instance when instructing takes precedence over flying however briefly. I will remember this.

14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Wednesday, October 23, 2013 in Galveston, TX
Probable Cause Approval Date: 05/13/2015
Aircraft: NORTH AMERICAN P 51D, registration: N4151D
Injuries: 2 Fatal.
NTSB investigators may not have traveled in support of this investigation and used data provided by various sources to prepare this aircraft accident report.

http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviat ... 015&akey=1

The pilot and passenger departed on the flight in a vintage warbird airplane. After departure, radar tracked the flight along a bay in a southwestern direction. A witness reported that he heard the airplane overhead heading south and that he then saw the airplane slowly turn north and appear to descend at a high rate of speed before it impacted the water. The airplane was largely fragmented upon impact.
The flight was recorded by an onboard video recording system. A review of the video revealed that, a few minutes into the flight, the pilot asked the passenger if he’d like to fly the airplane. The passenger replied he was not a pilot, but he’d like to try it. The video showed that, with the passenger at the controls, the airplane steeply banked right to about 90 degrees, and the nose dropped; the pilot explained that back pressure was needed on the stick during turns to prevent the loss of lift. The conversation continued as the airplane was rolling to wings level and as the pilot was encouraging the passenger to pull back on the stick. During this time, the video showed the airplane descending toward the water. Neither the pilot nor passenger acknowledged the impending collision. It is likely that the pilot’s focused attention on instructing the passenger contributed to the his lack of recognition of the impending collision. It could not be determined if the water’s smooth surface contributed to the pilot’s loss of situational awareness. The accident is consistent with the pilot’s loss of situational awareness resulting in controlled flight into the water.

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:
•The pilot's loss of situational awareness while instructing the passenger, which resulted in the controlled flight of the airplane into the water.

Re: LSFM Galveston Gal down near Galveston TX

Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:30 pm

I don't know about the rest of you, but that gives me a terrible sinking feeling right in my gut. A moment's inattention and we've lost two good people and one beautiful aircraft. When I had the opportunity to fly a T-6 (in N453WA, 3 months before her fatal crash in 2005), I was incredibly focused on maintaining situational awareness outside of the aircraft and knowing where the plane was at all times- the pilot was very complimentary of my maneuvers, but I'm not gonna lie, as a first timer it was nerve-wracking. We all know aviation is serious business, and everyone from rank noobs like myself up to multi-thousand hour pilots must always remember: Aviate, navigate, communicate. The order is inviolable.

What a sad, sad loss.

Lynn

Re: LSFM Galveston Gal down near Galveston TX

Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:29 pm

While it his sad that the crash occurred, it is good to know the explanation.

Re: LSFM Galveston Gal down near Galveston TX

Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:09 am

Very sad knowing it sounds like the cause of the accident was avoidable. :? :(
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