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 Post subject: Swamp Ghost
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:50 pm 
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Hundreds if not thousands of Aussies pay a lot of money to walk the Kokoda Trail,Just to live the experience of their fathers friends and heros.
And they will pay to see such things as the Swamp Ghost.
You have to remember these people have nothing they get nothing from the Australian government because John Howard has this thing about all black people.He is a sad little man.


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 Post subject: Re: Swamp Ghost
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Mick Grinter wrote:
Hundreds if not thousands of Aussies pay a lot of money to walk the Kokoda Trail,Just to live the experience of their fathers friends and heros.
And they will pay to see such things as the Swamp Ghost.
You have to remember these people have nothing they get nothing from the Australian government because John Howard has this thing about all black people.He is a sad little man.


Then maybe a few coins will go Swamp Ghost's way to get a roof over
her...get 'er up outa the dirt, and maybe the locals will benefit as well.
Sorry Mick, "sad politicians" seem to be a universal phenomena..

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HI WOULD THE A25 BEEN BETTER LEFT AS DISCOVERED? :roll: BOY THAT WOULD HAVE SAVED ALLOT OF WORK :shock: I HAVE TO DISAGREE OF THE DISPLAY IT AS RECOVERED MIND SET ON MANY OF THE RELICS.FOR EXAMPLE SOME OF THE VERY RARE Japanese STUFF THAT WILL SOON NO LONGER EXIST A MAJOR EFFORT SHOULD BE MADE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE TO RECOVER AND PRESERVE THEM.ONLY 5 COMPLETE SB2CS EXIST THE A25 WILL INCREASE THIS NUMBER TO 6 AND WILL ALLOW AN A/C THAT WAS THOUGHT TO BE BEYOND HOPE TO BE DISPLAYED FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.THANKS MIKE

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If someone ever gets permission to recover Swamp Ghost, how are they going to dig it out of the swamp without further damaging the aircraft? In photos I've seen, it looks like the swamp is growing right through the fuselage. Just something the recovery team would have to consider if they indeed get salvage rights, which IMO will probably never happen.

If it is ever successfully recovered I think that it should be restored using as much of the original material as possible.

Matt, your resident Swamp Ghost recovery pessimist


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They're probably still waiting for the environmental impact report...


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i say discover, recover & determine if preservation is feasible in 1 of 2 ways...... period. #1- if preservation is feasible to original condition then great!! preserve it!! if not then revert to option # 2, that being preserve the wreck as found. re-create the surroundings as the relic was discovered in a museum diorama evironment. i think it would be interesting!! for perspective think of this.... how many wix members are scuba certified?? i'd bet under 5 % if that!! point being how many of us can enjoy diving on a warbird wreck?? let alone how many of us can afford travel to the far reaches of the planet to view wrecks in their final resting places. 1 stipulation.... i would most definetely not disturb a site deemed as a war grave where recovery of remains would be not respectable.

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how many wix members are scuba certified??

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let alone how many of us can afford travel to the far reaches of the planet to view wrecks in their final resting places.

Most likly cant. Bedtime is at 10:00 :?

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A B-17 for a Stearman ! What a "fair" exchange !!!

If i were PNG Gov., i would also have blocked the exchange

Laurent


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A B-17 for a Stearman ! What a "fair" exchange !!!

If i were PNG Gov., i would also have blocked the exchange

Laurent


Laurent,

Did you read my whole post not only the Stearman but a B-25 plus they were going to have a two new museem buildings build. Considering the time period it was actually a heck of a deal for the PNG Goverment saince the two builds alone where going to cost the USA around 1.5 to 2 Million Dollars 1980s time period.

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What happened to the B-25 is it still there?


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 Post subject: There is no answer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:52 pm 
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The other guy that signed all the agreements has got the flick,And the new guy he dosen't recognise the old agreements.
Go figure.


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Laurent,

Did you read my whole post not only the Stearman but a B-25 plus they were going to have a two new museem buildings build. Considering the time period it was actually a heck of a deal for the PNG Goverment saince the two builds alone where going to cost the USA around 1.5 to 2 Million Dollars 1980s time period.

RER[/quote]

Oups ! Missed that part. Comment taken back.

True that if those elusive buildings for the PNG museum could have been available 20 years ago, this plus a few more dedicated staff and a little bit less corruption could have changed the museum into one of the finest collection of Japanese and US combat veterans.

Laurent


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