THUNDER OVER MICHIGAN 2021

A26 Special K · **Joined:** Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:27 pm **Posts:** 2559

To Xray, since you asked, I manage the A-26 and T-33. I schedule shows and make sure our airplanes are in compliance with our FAA approved maintenance plans. I order parts and send others off to the appropriate shop for overhaul when needed. The training for our pilots involves systems ground schools and flight training. We team teach these. I take care of the chief pilot duties and fly in shows although I’m not the only pilot. We will resume training as soon as the airplanes are ready to go again. Our Crew Chief’s handle all of the work and team members who do the maintenance. We have one for each aircraft. There’s more but I don’t want to get too long winded. Ok?

michael luther · **Posted:** Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:50 am

Just added,

The Military Aviation Museum's B-25J Mitchell "WILD CARGO"!

jcochr50 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:01 am

michael luther wrote:

Just added,

The Military Aviation Museum's B-25J Mitchell "WILD CARGO"!

THIRD announced...good start.

martin_sam_2000 · **Joined:** Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:05 am **Posts:** 397

jcochr50 wrote:

michael luther wrote:

Just added,

The Military Aviation Museum's B-25J Mitchell "WILD CARGO"!

THIRD announced...good start.

technically 4th,. We all know "Yankee Warrior" will be there.

off to a good start! I can't wait to see what west coast birds make it over. I am assumimg the Erikson one will be on the lsit considering how active they have been with ToM the past few years.

Sean

michael luther · **Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:08 am

Just added,

The Commemorative Air Force's B-25J Mitchell "DEVIL DOG"! :wink:

jcochr50 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:13 am

michael luther wrote:

Just added,

The Commemorative Air Force's B-25J Mitchell "DEVIL DOG"! :wink:

Keep 'em coming!

The Ripper · **Joined:** Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:16 am **Posts:** 174

Hoping to get to this show, if COVID-19 lets me.

I have it on good authority Kermit's A-26 Invader is very close to flying. Would be great to see it here supporting the B-25 theme...

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 750

The Ripper wrote:

Hoping to get to this show, if COVID-19 lets me.

I have it on good authority Kermit's A-26 Invader is very close to flying. Would be great to see it here supporting the B-25 theme...

Kermit rarely leaves a close radius to his home base of operations, much less out of state. I think it would be unrealistic to think that he would bring either the A-26 or B-25 to that event.

martin_sam_2000 · **Joined:** Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:05 am **Posts:** 397

I came up with a quick list last night of the B-25's that I can find as airworthy in the US (and the one in Canada) and whether I feel they are likely, possible, or unlikely to attend. I have based these assumptions on what aircraft I know usually travel vs stay close to home, and what ones I know attend shows vs just do local flying. Some I have no idea on.

As such, if any of you feel I should revise the list, please let me know. this is just as a reference and I have no inside knowledge on any of these. it is cool to see that between the confirmed and my guesses at likely participants..I get 18 airframes!!

edit: rejigged the list based on GRNDP51 comments below. Thanks!!

B-25D- Rosies Reply
B-25J- Devil Dog
B-25J- Georgies gal
B-25J- Miss Mitchell
B-25J- Panchito
B-25J- Show Me
B-25J-Supper Rabbit
B-25J- Wild Cargo
B-25J- Yellow rose
PBJ-1- Semper-Fi

B-25H- Barbie (likely)
B-25H- Berlin Express (likely)
B-25J- Breifing time (likely)
B-25J- Champagne Gal (likely)
B-25J- Grumpy (likely)
B-25J- Heavenly Body (likely)
B-25J- Maid in the Shade (likely)
B-25- Miss Hap (likely)
B-25J- take off Time (likely)

B-25D- Grumpy (possible)
B-25J- Executive Sweet (possible)
B-25J- Georgea Mae (possible)
B-25J- God and Country (possible)
B-25J- In the mood (possible)
B-25J- Lady Luck (possible)
B-25J- Pacific Princess (possible)
B-25J- Paper Doll (possible)
B-25J- Photo Fanny (possible)
B-25J- Tondelayo (Possible)
B-25J- Yankee Doodle (possible)

B-25J- Apache Princess (unlikely)
B-25J- Betty’s Dream (unikely)
B-25J- Guardian of Freedom (unlikely)
B-25J – Killer Bee (unlikely)
B-25J- Mitch the Witch II (unlikely)
B-25J- Russian ta get ya (unlikely)

Sean

GRNDP51 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:34 pm **Posts:** 509

Sean, some commentary to your list:

martin_sam_2000 wrote:

I came up with a quick list last night of the B-25's that I can find as airworthy in the US (and the one in Canada) and whether I feel they are likely, possible, or unlikely to attend. I have based these assumptions on what aircraft I know usually travel vs stay close to home, and what ones I know attend shows vs just do local flying. Some I have no idea on.

As such, if any of you feel I should revise the list, please let me know. this is just as a reference and I have no inside knowledge on any of these. it is cool to see that between the confirmed and my guesses at likely participants..I get 21 airframes!!

B-25D- Yankee Warrior
B-25J- Devil Dog
B-25J- Georgies gal
B-25J-Supper Rabbit
B-25J- Wild Cargo

B-25H- Barbie (likely)
B-25H- Berlin Express (likely) - makes it’s living as a “tour” aircraft, so it depends on how TOM fits into that
B-25J- Betty’s Dream (Likely) - actually unlikely as it is for sale and has not had an annual with DTAM as the owner just wants to sell it
B-25J- Briefing time (likely)
B-25J- Champagne Gal (likely)
B-25J- Grumpy (likely)
B-25J- Heavenly Body (likely)
B-25J- How boot that (likely) - don’t believe this is airworthy
B-25J- Maid in the Shade (likely)
B-25- Miss Hap (likely)
B-25J- Miss Mitchell (likely)
B-25J- Panchito (likely)
B-25J- take off Time (likely)
B-25J- Semper-fi (likely)
B-25J- Show Me (likely)
B-25J- Yellow rose (likely)

B-25D- Grumpy (possible)
B-25J- Georgea Mae (possible)
B-25J- In the mood (possible)
B-25J- Lady Luck (possible)
B-25J- old Gray mare (possible) - not airworthy
B-25J- Pacific Princess (possible)
B-25J- Paper Doll (possible)
B-25J- Photo Fanny (possible)
B-25J- Russian ta get ya ( possible) - nope
B-2J- Special Delivery (possible) - nope
B-25J- Tondelayo (Possible) - supposedly going into a tear down for a few years
B-25J- Yanks (possible) - not airworthy
B-25J- Yankee Doodle (possible)

B-25J- Apache Princess (unlikely) - you are correct
B-25J- Executive Sweet (unlikely) - more fitting under possible
B-25J- God and Country (unlikely) - more fitting under the possible category after their Corsair attended last year
B-25J- Guardian of Freedom (unlikely)
B-25J – Killer Bee (unlikely)
B-25J- Mitch the Witch II (unlikely) - not airworthy
B-25J- tootsie (unlikely) - not airworthy

Sean

martin_sam_2000 · **Joined:** Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:05 am **Posts:** 397

GRNDP51 wrote:

Sean, some commentary to your list:

updated my list. Thanks!!

Sean

robert16627 · **Joined:** Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:03 pm **Posts:** 24

Just Curious, What are the chances a A-4 Skyhawk will appear next year for the 2021 airshow?

martin_sam_2000 · **Joined:** Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:05 am **Posts:** 397

robert16627 wrote:

Just Curious, What are the chances a A-4 Skyhawk will appear next year for the 2021 airshow?

Warbird Heritage Foundation in Illinois has one, been to ToM a few times.

What are the chances of it showing up this year...id guess pretty slim. Fast jets cost big $$ and they are spending most of theirs on the B-25’s. Not impossible, but I wouldnt bet on it.

Sean

GRNDP51 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:34 pm **Posts:** 509

robert16627 wrote:

Just Curious, What are the chances a A-4 Skyhawk will appear next year for the 2021 airshow?

Only way this would possibly happen is if there is a Legacy Flight and it’s supported by an A-4. Not impossible, but more unlikely than likely.

Xray · **Joined:** Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:25 am **Posts:** 534

Fast jets also draw larger crowds, and put the "Thunder" in TOM.
With no Blue Angels or Thunderbirds scheduled, I sure hope they do finagle some jet acts into the show.

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