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Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:44 pm

Any warbird in the English Channel

Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:46 pm

L2Driver wrote:A rebuildable Hawker Typhoon. Would be nice to hear a Napier Sabre go screaming by...


Hopefully we'll all get the chance upon completion of Mr. Weeks Mk V Tempest. :wink:

Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:36 pm

Robert Morgan's B-29 Dauntless Dotty off the the runway and underwater at Kwajalein...

Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:41 pm

Glenn Miller's Norseman and the 5 Sparrowhawks from the Macon!

Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:47 pm

The recenarticle in Aviation Hstory about the Macon showed them on the bottom of the ocean. Maybe I missed where they were recovered.

Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:51 pm

As far as I know it didn't mention them being recovered due to th eNavy's forward thinking attitude on wrecks.

Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:18 pm

Airdales wrote:
Mike wrote:
Nathan wrote:I think they were recovered.

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure they're still down there, and, being Navy aeroplanes, are likely to remain there indefinitely. :(


Actually, I think they are in "storage". I heard the Navy is going top create an underwater "as found" display of the Sparrowhawks and the Macon. Only it's 10,000 feet under the Pacific Ocean! :cry:

I wish they'd get with the program! Their lack of foresight really makes them look ridiculous.
Jerry

There is a good article in Aviation history. Some photos are here.

http://www.historynet.com/photogallery/6448337.html

The mag has current photos of the wreck, showing the bright yellow of the remaining fabric on the wings, which apear to cast a shadow from the camera lights, which indicates to me that there's a chance the F9Cs are still in one piece. According to the article they were Not Recovered.

Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:32 pm

Don Martin wrote:
Airdales wrote:
Mike wrote:
Nathan wrote:I think they were recovered.

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure they're still down there, and, being Navy aeroplanes, are likely to remain there indefinitely. :(


Actually, I think they are in "storage". I heard the Navy is going top create an underwater "as found" display of the Sparrowhawks and the Macon. Only it's 10,000 feet under the Pacific Ocean! :cry:

I wish they'd get with the program! Their lack of foresight really makes them look ridiculous.
Jerry

There is a good article in Aviation history. Some photos are here.

http://www.historynet.com/photogallery/6448337.html

The mag has current photos of the wreck, showing the bright yellow of the remaining fabric on the wings, which apear to cast a shadow from the camera lights, which indicates to me that there's a chance the F9Cs are still in one piece. According to the article they were Not Recovered.


I guess I should've been clearer with my sarcastic post and said "in order to view the "new" display of the Sparrowhawks and Macon in an "as found" underwater display, visitors will have to get in a sub and dive 10,000 feet under the Pacific to view them!
Jerry :wink:

Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:37 am

The B-26 1464 on Kiriwina Island. There was a lot there but like other wrecks Im sure many pieces have been used to make building roofing. I have pics somebody sent me of a visit in 1984. And no it was never recovered in 1974 as that book stated several times, despite my letters to the editor with copies of the photos. And of course, the problem with something being printed wrong in several editons of a book, means that the error is repeated elsewhere ad infinitum. (Which NBC News reported is one of the problems with Wikipedia).

JH

Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:37 pm

Hey Jerry, I understood ya, really I did. No, Really, I Did! :wink: :roll: Just couldn't resist posting the link...................................................

Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:20 am

I'd love to see some quality German airframes come out of the fresh water lakes of Eastern Germany, Poland, Russia, Finland etc.
There must be some gold still out there

Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:50 am

The Swoose.
Hey NASM, we can "recover" it before lunch and use less than a tank of gas!

Then you can go home and sleep in your own beds that night.
Sound like a deal?

Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:07 am

JBoyle wrote:The Swoose.
Hey NASM, we can "recover" it before lunch and use less than a tank of gas!

Then you can go home and sleep in your own beds that night.
Sound like a deal?


Bring the Hortten with it!

Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:30 pm

JohnH wrote:The B-26 1464 on Kiriwina Island. There was a lot there but like other wrecks Im sure many pieces have been used to make building roofing. I have pics somebody sent me of a visit in 1984. And no it was never recovered in 1974 as that book stated several times, despite my letters to the editor with copies of the photos. And of course, the problem with something being printed wrong in several editons of a book, means that the error is repeated elsewhere ad infinitum. (Which NBC News reported is one of the problems with Wikipedia).

JH


John,

By "1464" are you referring to 40-1464? Isn't that Kermit Week's Marauder?

Is it possible you were thinking of Marauder 40-1426?

Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:01 pm

The PBY guys here could give you an itemized list, especially since David Legg has authored a book on postwar Catalinas. My vote, sticking to one example would be firebomber C-FNJE, upside down in 80 ft. of water in Inuvit lake in the Canadian Arctic.

Canso42
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