Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:57 pm
EDowning wrote:I thought this deserved it's own subject
When you post a subject line with the words crash or down, there are a number of us on here that own, operate or take care of COWS. My first thought is did I lose a friend today ? I have alot of friends that fly Mustangs, T-6s, T-28s and Bill with the Spitfire, also others that fly B-17s, B-25s, Corsairs, T-bolts. So when I see a post like that, I take it personal. Unless you have lost someone close to you in a COW STRIKE, you might not, but I have, and it is not fun having to ID your best friend and pasenger, and tell his wife that the COW is not coming home.
If you are asking about a COW STRIKE, please put the date in the subject line, instead of just COW STRIKE, you might get more looks without the date, but there are alot of us that lose a few heartbeats when we see COW in the subject line.
For Gods sake can you people please read the sticky. Please put a date in the subject line. I nearly had a heart attack thinking this could have been one of those many nameless cows I've chased over the years. Blah, Blah, Blah......
When I first read the thread topic, I thought that the cows were going on strike for better work rules and more pay. Just what we need - another government bailout for the milk industry. I was really scared I was going to have to go without milk for a while. To echo Eric's sentiment, please be more detailed in the thread post, so we all don't get heart attacks!
Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:14 am
On 24 July 1943, a Boeing B-17F collided with a 1,500 pound horse on a hill near Ephrata, Washington; the collision knocked off the port landing gear and the number three propeller, causing the B-17 to crash into the next hill. Hitting a large animal can cause a lot of damage, even to a heavy aircraft like a B-17. TonyM.
Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:47 am
Just had deer strike number seven at our airport last night.
Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:50 am
"A cow is not just for Christmas".
Hanoi, Feb 2002.
PeterA
Hanoi, Feb 2002.
PeterA
Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:22 pm
Obergrafeter wrote:Just had deer strike number seven at our airport last night.
OHHH OH.....hope not George again!!!! ???????
Pig
Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:33 pm
'YOU CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG, BUT". But not many of us guys here in modernized western society would think about transporting a whole pig, cow, or whatever that is, with just a little moped.
It is a funny, eye catching photo, but beyond that it gives a glimpse of the kind of people that we thought we were going to "bomb em back into the stone age" and just run over them with all our expensive technology. No wonder we never stopped supplies coming down the Ho Chi Min trail despite all the bombing.
It is a funny, eye catching photo, but beyond that it gives a glimpse of the kind of people that we thought we were going to "bomb em back into the stone age" and just run over them with all our expensive technology. No wonder we never stopped supplies coming down the Ho Chi Min trail despite all the bombing.
Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:27 pm
lovely!!! 
Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:05 am
Back in the middish 60's an ALASKA 727-100 touched down @ ANC just past sunset in mid Sept, as the nose came down on slowing they hit a cow moose that had chosen the nice warm runway as a great place to lay down (remember, a full grown moose weighs in at around 1100 to 1300 lbs and has a brain smaller than a Cocker Spaniel and a bull will charge a train in it's territory, OH BOY! moose weenies for everyone!) which knocked the nose gear out from under the '27
Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:15 pm
Randy wrote With that extra info, I found the airfield on Google Earth and compared it to what was shown in the video and do agree that that seems to be the correct location, thus, it is probably real. That said, it just doesn't look real in the video - perhaps due to the lowered quality. Thanks for providing the added info. Fly safe for the holidays
Sorry Randy but you just don't get the point - it was an official report as posted in the msg above yours so I can't understand the logic of your
post...??thus, it is probably real
Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:30 pm
It was definitely real, the guy in the front was a Mossie crew member during the war and after the 'flight' his son said words along the lines of "Dad the last few planes you've been up in have had problems, I told you not to go up again"!
My work colleague has just finished inspecting the poor Tiger and she needs a new rear spar for the port lower, the Cow made quite a dent in it!
Unfortunately the rear fuselage took a bit of a beating too.
The aileron rode up in the vid because the Tiger has an exposed bellcrank arrangement on the underside of the wing.
It was an engine failure, fuel related IIRC, the pilot did a good job of getting over the fence and under the Electrical Wires, unfortunately the cow was unsighted by him!
Tom
My work colleague has just finished inspecting the poor Tiger and she needs a new rear spar for the port lower, the Cow made quite a dent in it!
Unfortunately the rear fuselage took a bit of a beating too.
The aileron rode up in the vid because the Tiger has an exposed bellcrank arrangement on the underside of the wing.
It was an engine failure, fuel related IIRC, the pilot did a good job of getting over the fence and under the Electrical Wires, unfortunately the cow was unsighted by him!
Tom
Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:29 pm
http://avherald.com/h?article=411ddd21&opt=0
Where's the beef?
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Dec 17th 2008 11:16Z, last updated Wednesday, Dec 17th 2008 11:47Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGYCnowBC2g
What looked like an Internet prank, has actually triggered a report by the Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) of the United Kingdom.
A Tiger Moth biplane had just taken off runway 23 at Dunkeswell Airfield in Devon (United Kingdom) on September 14th 2008 and had reached about 200 feet AGL, when the engine speed dropped to idle. The pilot lowered the nose of the airplane to maintain flying speed and turned right to land on a suitable field. The airplane cleared a sturdy barbed wire fence, but at about touchdown a cow ran under and hit the airplane at the left wing causing substantial damages to the airplane. The airplane rolled to a halt and the two occupants, the owner of Ace Flight Training on the airfield and a former WWII combat pilot aged 84 - who had done low level raids with Mosquitos - got out uninjured and laughing.
The AAIB reported, that corrosion debris was found in the carburettor float bowl, which appeared to come from the float bowl itsself. Fuel tanks, fuel lines and fuel filters were found clean. It is therefore likely, the AAIB closes the report, that this debris blocked the carburettor jets causing the reduction in power, as the engine ran normally once the debris was removed.
The full AAIB report can be found at: http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources/DH ... 012-08.pdf
The cow became subject to many jokes including instructions of how to get beef for dinner. The AAIB reported in a side sentence however, that the cow seen to roll over due to the impact remained uninjured, too. The cow had to actually be searched in her herd and was found without a scratch whatsoever ...
The pilot reported, that it was the first cow he hit in 22 year of flying. He may now paint a cow onto the side of his Tiger Moth to mark the event. The "silly cow", who had run across the field to join her herd, continued grazing as the two climbed out of their airplane.
Where's the beef?
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Dec 17th 2008 11:16Z, last updated Wednesday, Dec 17th 2008 11:47Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGYCnowBC2g
What looked like an Internet prank, has actually triggered a report by the Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) of the United Kingdom.
A Tiger Moth biplane had just taken off runway 23 at Dunkeswell Airfield in Devon (United Kingdom) on September 14th 2008 and had reached about 200 feet AGL, when the engine speed dropped to idle. The pilot lowered the nose of the airplane to maintain flying speed and turned right to land on a suitable field. The airplane cleared a sturdy barbed wire fence, but at about touchdown a cow ran under and hit the airplane at the left wing causing substantial damages to the airplane. The airplane rolled to a halt and the two occupants, the owner of Ace Flight Training on the airfield and a former WWII combat pilot aged 84 - who had done low level raids with Mosquitos - got out uninjured and laughing.
The AAIB reported, that corrosion debris was found in the carburettor float bowl, which appeared to come from the float bowl itsself. Fuel tanks, fuel lines and fuel filters were found clean. It is therefore likely, the AAIB closes the report, that this debris blocked the carburettor jets causing the reduction in power, as the engine ran normally once the debris was removed.
The full AAIB report can be found at: http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources/DH ... 012-08.pdf
The cow became subject to many jokes including instructions of how to get beef for dinner. The AAIB reported in a side sentence however, that the cow seen to roll over due to the impact remained uninjured, too. The cow had to actually be searched in her herd and was found without a scratch whatsoever ...
The pilot reported, that it was the first cow he hit in 22 year of flying. He may now paint a cow onto the side of his Tiger Moth to mark the event. The "silly cow", who had run across the field to join her herd, continued grazing as the two climbed out of their airplane.
Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:39 pm
This is a true story. The pilot was interviewed on MSN . And the cow was not hurt.
Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:48 pm
Ian:
With all due respect, I've been the first person to arrive at the scene of a plane crash - in the cockpit - and I've been at the scene of a number of aviation and air show accidents over my years. What I said is that the video shown just didn't look real to me (the cow part) and there are a number of what are now called "viral videos" out on the Internet (the plane landing without a wing, etc), as you may know. I agreed that it was most likely real after more information was posted matching the events shown in the video. I have no clue why you made the "you don't get the point" comment. As for "official reports"...I'll have to pass on that. Fly safe.
Randy
With all due respect, I've been the first person to arrive at the scene of a plane crash - in the cockpit - and I've been at the scene of a number of aviation and air show accidents over my years. What I said is that the video shown just didn't look real to me (the cow part) and there are a number of what are now called "viral videos" out on the Internet (the plane landing without a wing, etc), as you may know. I agreed that it was most likely real after more information was posted matching the events shown in the video. I have no clue why you made the "you don't get the point" comment. As for "official reports"...I'll have to pass on that. Fly safe.
Randy
Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:00 pm
I think Ian's got a point - An AAIB report (yeah, even though they're funny foreigners) is one of the most reliable sources I deal with. The link was posted by Bradburger, and should close the veracity argument.
(If more aircrew were aware of, and used, AAIB accident reports, it might prevent more accidents, and assist on accident diagnosis.)
And a d@mn sight more reliable than MSN.
(If more aircrew were aware of, and used, AAIB accident reports, it might prevent more accidents, and assist on accident diagnosis.)
And a d@mn sight more reliable than MSN.