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Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:32 pm
Dennis7423 wrote:I too hope that they do something different and put her in a winter camo. However, I think it would provide some more awesome visuals if every winter, when the temperature drops up in Washington, that they "white wash" all of their appropriate aircraft to reflect those winter camo colors they would wear during WWII (Il-2, Storch, Fw-190, I-16, Po-2, and eventually the Stuka). It would be very pleasing to the eye!
- Dennis S.
Thornton, CO USA
Interesting idea to use a washable top coat to whitewash those aircraft for some winter photo shoots, provided it doesn't degrade the expensive original paint.
Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:43 pm
Dennis7423 wrote:I think it would provide some more awesome visuals if every winter, when the temperature drops up in Washington ...
When the temperature drops from 75F to 65F, you mean?
Sorry, couldn't resist. I agree that a temporary white coat is a great idea, and would look awesome over Mt. Rainier.
August
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:17 pm
Dan K wrote:Shall we assume that she's being rebuilt as an R-4 based on the best-available powerplant?
I assume she's being rebuilt as an R-4 as the display board next to it -
and the website - say it's an R-4.
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:35 am
KiwiZac wrote:Dan K wrote:Shall we assume that she's being rebuilt as an R-4 based on the best-available powerplant?
I assume she's being rebuilt as an R-4 as the display board next to it -
and the website - say it's an R-4.

Question: Aren't you even the least-bit curious why every source of info on Werknummer 0875709 identified the craft as an R-2, up until the appearance of your linked website?
Is it possible that during the restoration process, it was determined that the most-viable powerplant for restoration was a Jumo 211J, rather than her original 211D?
I await your researched answer.
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:07 am
Soooo... we're on page 4 already. Did anyone actually go take pictures?
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:18 am
RyanShort1 wrote:Soooo... we're on page 4 already. Did anyone actually go take pictures?

Here is a good walk-around video Lots of work to do if they want to fly in two years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7aDqVkK3Ag
Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:34 pm
Dan K wrote:Question: Aren't you even the least-bit curious why every source of info on Werknummer 0875709 identified the craft as an R-2, up until the appearance of your linked website?
Is it possible that during the restoration process, it was determined that the most-viable powerplant for restoration was a Jumo 211J, rather than her original 211D?
I await your researched answer.
I'm incredibly curious! And confused! You've seen the sum total of my amateur research I'm afraid, I'm eagerly awaiting those more "in the know" to be able to chime in with more information. My guess is that the so-far-unknown second wreck is an R-4, but I've no clue as to the WkNr or origin of it.
It's all part of what makes this project so fascinating to me!
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:18 pm
KiwiZac wrote:I'm incredibly curious! And confused! You've seen the sum total of my amateur research I'm afraid, I'm eagerly awaiting those more "in the know" to be able to chime in with more information. My guess is that the so-far-unknown second wreck is an R-4, but I've no clue as to the WkNr or origin of it.
It's all part of what makes this project so fascinating to me!
The only Ju-87B/R-4 variant I can find is Wk.Nr. 1394 5./St.G.1, which is partial wreck that was in the UK. Listed as partial cockpit, aft fuselage and landing gear parts.
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:15 pm
FHCAM have confirmed the majority of the air frame is based on Ju 87R-4 wk.nr. 6234. Minor parts were supplied from wk.nr. 5709
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:55 am
Ju 87R
Belgium
SD
Wreck and parts recovered for Belgium 1998/1999 includes parts from several aircraft including Ju 87R W.Nr 5820 of SG 102
Phil Mertons collection?Gone to......?
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:00 am
DaveM2 wrote:FHCAM have confirmed the majority of the air frame is based on Ju 87R-4 wk.nr. 6234. Minor parts were supplied from wk.nr. 5709
It's a fair cop.
I blame society.
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:38 am
Thanks Dave! Very exciting to know that 6234 will fly again after a couple of false starts.
Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:43 pm
I wouldn’t call it a data plate restoration. That could be taken the wrong way. There just aren’t any intact Stukas sitting in a playground, on a stick , or anywhere for that matter. In the case of such a difficult restoration, no doubt they were thrilled to use original material as much as possible.
However, it reminds me of one of the Flug Werk FW-190 kits. So much has been accomplished but I don’t see any wiring, avionics, landing gear, etc. Lots of work remains to be done.
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:45 pm
Cool. A tantalising teaser of a clip, but still very cool to see! Thanks so much for the link.
I was hoping for a more green camo, but I'm not going to complain. It's a flying Stuka!
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