MSP to lose their Blackbird??

[adflyer]

[rwdfresno]

You can't go stake a claim to live in the Capitol Building because your taxpayer dollars help light, heat, and maintain it. You can't go cut down trees from a National Forest because your taxpayer funds helped buy it. You don't see your local Police department distributing surplus firearms to the neighborhood when they're done with them because they were purchased with community tax funds.

I don't recall suggesting that anyone should be able to just walk onto a base and say "hey wrap up a half dozen F-15s i want to take some home." See that is a leap that you are making. I suggest when it comes down to the day when there are 1000 of them sitting in mothballs and there is a aluminum shredding machine getting warmed up on the back forty that they government say "hey taxpayers you paid for all the engineering, anyone willing to pony up the $50,000 K per aircraft that we would get out of the recycled materials?" If people and are willing to pay what the military will loose on not recycling of the materials then yes they should have the option to do so. They do it to foreign countries why not US citizens? You admit that an F-15 is just another aircraft so why not just sell them at the scrap price to to US citizens without trashing them. The military isn't loosing any money by doing so they will just have to pay to demil it before sold for scrap so in fact they will be better off financially.

The NMUSAF is at Wright Patt for reasons, and it should be the only main museum for the USAF. It is the National museum for that branch just as Pennsacola is for the navy as it should be.

I disagree (I know a big surprise fro ma dumb hunky like me ). They already have all of the aircraft sitting at Castle AFB outside in a museums. While they do maintain the aircraft as best they can we can all agree that they would last much longer inside. I don't agree with leaving them outside just to make the NMUSAF more exclusive and I don't agree with re-poing them all to WPAFB just to put them inside so really the only good scenario to me is to make a nice indoor museum at Castle AFB. Especially becuase moving the B-36, KC-97, Vulcan, B-29, B-50, C-46, B-52, B-47, B-24, B-17 etc etc would be too much work and things would get messed up in a big move.

In 2008 the USAF is going to start getting rid of the F-117. If something has systems that are still classified then obviously those classified systems are not going to be made available to the general public. After the F-117 sit around for 30 years in mothballs and today's secrets are tomorrows "big whoop" then they can sell them. Also, much of the equipment in an F-14, F-16, F-15 etc that is classified is weapons systems etc which don't need to be included when sold.

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[mustangdriver]

I agree with you on making out door museums indoor ones. Making Castle an indoor museum would be sweet. What I mean is that it should still be called Castle AFB Museum. I just meant that I didn't like the idea of giving it the name similar to the NMUSAF, as ther should be only one national museum for each branch. Wright Pat has just about atleast one of everything from the USAF. So I agree that they should stay with the museums they are in.

[RickH]

The current policy is onerous and needless. The wanton destruction of useful govt property that has a real value to the US Treasury is illelgal. Yet it happens everyday.

The current DoD pol;icy is well represented in the wording of the attached bid instructions :

http://cgi.govliquidation.com:80/auction/view?id=1132133&tid=GLSPPR5206&cm_mmc=Email-_-ia6258-_-2007-02-21-_-6258_8950

[adflyer]

Well she's gone; the whole thing. Guess the question is answered.