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Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:39 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:I think the EADS should buy the lot to fill out there collection so they can go toe to toe with the BoBMF. Could an Allison V-12 be supplemented for the Merlin or DB? Would the Allison fit inside the original cowlings so the aircraft would have the reliability and power of the Allison and the look of an original ME/BF-109?


The short answer (along with several WIX discussions over the years) is that it's not very practical to re-engineer the Allison or the Merlin to run inverted for a Bf 109 installation.

Flugwerk made a lot of effort to fit a custom Allison into a new Fw190D-9, yet it was still upright with a rather intricate exhaust stack setup to maintain the external appearance. That aircraft never left the ground and is targeted for an original engine at some future time.
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Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:55 pm

How about fitting a Roll Royce Kestrel and backdating one to the original design. :D

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:59 am

Dave Homewood wrote:How about fitting a Roll Royce Kestrel and backdating one to the original design. :D

Yes, great idea, I'll just pop out and harvest a few from the Kestrel tree Dave! :)

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:19 am

From SuperCub.org forum:

Connie Edwards Quote in AOPA Pilot

You probably have heard that 80 yr. old flying legend and oil. land & stone entrepreneur Connie Edwards is selling his plane collection, a Spitfire Mk IV, a P-51 Mustang, several Buchons (Spanish built ME109s with Merlins), two PBY Catalinas and a hangar full of Merlin engines. but you might not have read this Connie Edward's quote from the AOPA Pilot:
"Edwards favorite airplane is a blue and white Piper Super Cub with an oversize 180 hp. engine that isn't part of the sale. He's unsentimental about the rest."
NICE

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:35 am

All the Buchons are now showing as 'pending' on the Provenance website.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:09 am

Mike wrote:All the Buchons are now showing as 'pending' on the Provenance website.


Very exciting! Sure do hope they end up as flyers. (And at least one in Spanish colors!)

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:33 am

How much of an article is it in "AOPA Pilot"?, I'd like to read it but how would I get hold of a copy in England, any ideas? Thanks.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:58 pm

All the Buchons are now showing as 'pending' on the Provenance website.


Platinum Fighter Sales - not Provenance.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:27 pm

Mike wrote:
Dave Homewood wrote:How about fitting a Roll Royce Kestrel and backdating one to the original design. :D

Yes, great idea, I'll just pop out and harvest a few from the Kestrel tree Dave! :)


Meh, just JB Weld a couple of Chevy V-6's together and flip them over. You're good to go! :D

Anyone have drawings of the DB601?

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:26 pm

Press report says the Buchons and Spitfire have been bought by a "European dealer" for almost £10 million. Someone on Flypast says the Mustang was not part of the deal.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/502635 ... rs-in-barn

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:31 pm

Too bad they will be going over seas - would have been nice to see them here.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:49 pm

"A 1943 Spitfire that actually fought in the Second World War fetched £4million "

...which is a pretty good sales job, considering they were only asking 1.5 mil.

And sold nine Buchon when only advertised six. Thanks to the Bernanke, Connie could get his asking while the Euro guy paid Snickers money. Everybody wins!

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:13 pm

Well, don't just sit there - let's start speculating who the "European buyer" could be! :twisted:

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:30 pm

Chris Brame wrote:Well, don't just sit there - let's start speculating who the "European buyer" could be! :twisted:


Hopefully EADS. At the rate they go through Buchons, they're gonna need them all!

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:48 pm

A 1943 Spitfire that actually fought in the Second World War fetched £4million "

...which is a pretty good sales job, considering they were only asking 1.5 mil.

Think we have a couple of typos.....................................4 million Pounds would be over 6 million U.S. and Connie was asking 2.5 M U.S. not 1.5
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