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Back in the sixties and seventies, Burns Byram a doctor from Iowa would commute everyday during Oshkosh back to Iowa to do his morning rounds in his P-51 "Tangerine". He would crank up about 0600 and go, and arrive back about 1200. He was killed ferrying a P-51 back from Guatemala or Honduras.


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Last summer Greg Anders flew his mustang down to fly ours, commuting in a mustang to fly a mustang.

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I've sill got a copy of that Flight Journal, Wade! Cool beans! There was a thread last summer concerning the Fulton Recovery System that I've been meaning to post my research of...as per Shay's request..IIRC. Things have been a bit "dodgy" but I'll get 'round to it.

To get to the point, Robert Edison Fulton, Jr. , modifier of the All America System "parcel snatch" ...later to become the USAAF M-????, later the Fulton Recovery System..also Commuted in a P-51 from his lab to home. Woulda been in the late 50's early 60's, I think. I've often wondered what happened to that bird and which '51 it was. I need to dig up that schtuff...

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I think Fultons' Mustang is now owned by Tony Beuchler.

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I think Fultons' Mustang is now owned by Tony Beuchler.

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And according to an article I read some years ago, Mike Bertz used to commute between his place (Tennessee I think) and Denver. So it looks as though it isn't that rare an occurrence after all then...?

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Fulton based his P-51 at Oxford, CT before he sold it in the late 1980's. He flew it occasionally before the sale. I got a look inside once and was surprised to see a regular aluminum lawn chair, the kind with the with the nylon webbing, attached to the floor as a rear seat! Couldn't have been very legal, but then again, I'm not an A&E! he also had a small, weather radar pod under the wing.
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b29flteng wrote:
He was killed ferrying a P-51 back from Guatemala or Honduras.


It was during a ferry flight back from Guatemala City to the USA, when Burn Byram was killed.

c/n 122-40970 was a P-51D (44-74430) that had also served with the RCAF as 9588.

It became N8673E when it went to James H. Defuria in Canastota, NY Feb.27, 1959

Through several owners, it ended up in El Salvador in 1965 and owned by Robert J. Love who registered it as YS-149P.

Roberto and Enrique Ibarguen from Cantel, Quetzaltenango, Guatemala, bought it in 1967 and registered it as TG-REI (REI = Roberto and Enrique Ibarguen) and it sporadically flew in Guatemala until 1978.

I saw this airplane flying on several occasions, and it was overall metal with no military markings. It was the only civilian Mustang to be registered and flown in Guatemala.

It was sold to HarRan Aircraft Sales (Muskogee, OK) and crashed June 5, 1978 during the ferry flight, as already indicated above.

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