P-38 question

Neal Nurmi · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:55 pm

Anybody have any idea what airplane this was, who owned it, and subsequent history?

Photographed in Chino in 1979.

maxum96 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:23 pm

No clue on who's P-38 that is, but I wonder what's the story on the unpainted B-24 in the second photo.

warbirdguy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:38 pm

I believe that bare B-24 is Joe.

Neal Nurmi · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:41 pm

It was the Tallichet airplane from India, which was turning up at airshows out West quite a bit at the time.

JohnH · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:32 pm

That may be either the P38 that crashed in Utah, that was on Baa Baa Black Sheep, but most likely the Tallichet airplane that ended up at McGuire AfB on a pole, in a trade for C130's, although if is that one, the paint it had in 77 is gone.

John

Oscar Duck · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:35 pm

Bill Ross P-38 :idea:

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:01 pm

i have a b-24 pilot seat from 1 of tallichet's india bombers, completly re-upholstered & sweet, it's in my office.

Chuck Gardner · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:25 pm

what is the Bu No of the P-38?

Neal Nurmi · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:49 pm

I have no numbers on the airplane -- I take pictures, but I'm not very good about N numbers and things. I'm more of an "ooh pretty!" kind of guy than a systematic recorder of anything.

Weren't Bu Numbers on Navy planes anyway?

I don't remember ever seeing Bill Ross's aircraft but my impression is that it was much prettier than this rather scruffy example...

Steve · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:17 pm

I don't think that's Bill Ross's

Steve

Chad Veich · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:18 pm

Definitely not the Bill Ross machine as he acquired his P-38 in '69 and it certainly was looking much better than this ten years later. I don't know for sure but I would hazard a guess that it is either the Tallichet bird that ended up on a pole as "Marge" or the other one he had that was also painted up as "Marge".

P51Mstg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:36 am **Posts:** 1202

The B-24 is Talichet's "Joe". Kermit has it FOF in FL right now. I saw it last week during SnF. Never could find Bill Greenwood (got many good shots of the Spit though).

Mark H

STEARMAN · **Joined:** Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:25 am **Posts:** 63

Defintely not the Ross machine. His P-38 was at DuPage airport outside of Chicago in '79 and sported the Derschel...(sorry, my German fails me, but it translated to "revenege weapon) painted on the nose.

Greg

JohnH · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:44 pm

It's definitely not the ex Tallichet now Mcguire AFB machine, it still had the same paint it did in 77 in 1981. N6961 is the one destroyed in Salt Lake City that was in Baa Black Sheep, Scrap Iron IV and it did look like this on the show. Tallichet acquired N505MH in 79, so it probably is either N6961 or N505MH. Tallichet's N79123 was acquired from Jack Hardwick, non flying in the early 80s. Then there's the rumour that the paperwork of N505MH was swapped with N79123, but will leave that out for this discussion. This is all from Kevin Grantham's book, Pscreamers.

John

Neal Nurmi · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:12 pm

As a total aside, I like that book -- it's got a bunch of my pictures in it!

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