Hurricane parrt on ebay any use?
Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:00 am
Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:20 pm
Without the flying wires in the frame, it will not in the proper shape.
Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:00 pm
Looks be a welded steel fuselage, not like an original Hurricane frame....
Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:52 pm
Having hangarer with a Hurricane for 13 years, it don't look right to me. Always wondered why they didn't weld it as it would have made a better frame. Some junctions have as many as 108 parts, plates, nuts & bolts, rivets and the round tubing made square on the ends for the attaching plates, crazy.
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Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:06 pm
Stoney, pretty good eyes for an old, er, that is, Vintage pilot. I think you are correct , details are hard to see in the photo, but it looks like the ends of the tubes are round, probably welded together, instead of the factory way of joining the flattened ends with a bolted flange or gusset type fitting. The bid is only $25, plus trasnsport for the item, maybe it can be a play item for someones kids.
Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:43 pm
Bill
As a pilot since 1965, I guess your right about me, an old, er, that is, Vintage pilot. And warbird pilot since 1968. Where oh where has the time gone?
As a pilot since 1965, I guess your right about me, an old, er, that is, Vintage pilot. And warbird pilot since 1968. Where oh where has the time gone?
Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:22 pm
Stoney wrote:Having hangarer with a Hurricane for 13 years, it don't look right to me. Always wondered why they didn't weld it as it would have made a better frame. Some junctions have as many as 108 parts, plates, nuts & bolts, rivets and the round tubing made square on the ends for the attaching plates, crazy.
Maybe, maybe not. There was a very sensible method in their madness in that they had a factory and fittings set up to undertake that kind of assembly, they knew how to do it, from the Hawker Hart and Hawker Fury family, and they got on with it in a period when time was pressing. (You'll know, I'm sure how much the Hurricane frame was basically a beefed up Fury frame concept.)
'What ifs' are risky, but, if they'd gone for a (to Hawker) 'new' production methodology, there would certainly have been a lot less Hurricanes in 1939/40. The sudden expansion for Supermarine meant that the Spitfire was simply not available in great numbers during the Battle of Britain. Given it's a fact that during the Battle Hurricanes shot down more enemy aircraft than all the other defences combined, less Hurricanes would probably have been critical. Those lost in France in May 1940 could have been the straw that broke the camel's back. (On the other hand the RAF didn't run short of fighters, but did run shot of pilots. What the margin of excess of fighters was is hard to say.)
That 'odd' and over-complex construction did the job.
At least they're not trying to sell it as 'Spitfire'.
Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:37 pm
Actually they were pretty opean an honest about it all over the sale page. Dunno how anyone would make the mistake of thinking they were buying a real spit frame. But then, someone will I am sure.
Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:09 am
muddyboots wrote:Actually they were pretty opean an honest about it all over the sale page. Dunno how anyone would make the mistake of thinking they were buying a real spit frame. But then, someone will I am sure.
Yes, of course. Anyone buying a Spitfire 'frame' deserves to get taken; but you'd be amazed at all the more interesting stuff tagged 'Spitfire' on e-bay et al. Or not, surprised, human nature being what it is...