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jbell · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:06 am

Hello, Haven't seen this here before. Apologies if it was already posted. Incident occured at Harrison, Arkansas in 1990. Pilot and plane kissed the earth at bottom of loop, minimal damage. :shock:

mlenoch · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:14 am

Great People's Soviet Socialist Republic plow action being operated by Doug Schultz. Notice the scientifically accurate straight crop lines produced by our agricultural comrade-hero. New advances to feed our great Soviet nation. (sic).
VL

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Wasn't he later killed in a Mig-21 accident which was doing contract work for the Navy or Air Force? What was determined to be the cause of that accident?

bipe215 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:22 am

http://anawhidbey.org/rauch/schultz.txt

N3Njeff · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:34 am

OMG...........we were just talking about this at work last week!!!!! What timing.

A former VT airplane.

Paul Krumrei · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:06 pm **Posts:** 1757

I hate to be the one to say it, but that is probably why he is no longer with us flying that way.

lmritger · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:47 am

I can say with absolute certainty that I have NEVER seen anything like that before... to have your aircraft physically bottom out at the base of a loop and smack the ground, but still recover, is absolutely, incredibly, unbelievably lucky. He was on borrowed time after this one.

Was this guy related to Bud Holland, perchance?

Lynn

Baldeagle · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:57 am

Why are the flaps down??

51fixer · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:21 pm

Baldeagle wrote:

Why are the flaps down??

Must lift off now! A little flap will help.

That must have been an incredible decision to make, close throttle and hope for best or try to fly away.

I remember the F-86 at El Toro, F-18 at same and Guy Neely in the A-4A.
I met the F-18 pilot later when Frank Sanders brought him out to Chino.

All bumped the ground and either hit hard or tried to fly away in Neely's case. Only 1 survived. Neely did a low level 270 degree rolling break and drug the wing tips through the brush with a heavy fuel load. They were filming a Toyota commercial as I recall. After getting it somewhat level he drug the tail along through the brush and bumping the ground and couldn't accelerate out of it.

As a bumper sticker I have seen says;
Flying isn't dangerous- crashing is dangerous.

Rich

Curtis Block · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:07 pm

It takes less altitude to compleat a loop in a Mig 17 with the flap part way down.

P51Mstg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:36 am **Posts:** 1202

Here is Doug Shultz himself at OSH 1995 right after taking my dad for a flight in the Crazy Horse (or maybe the otherway around). Dad Lived a year and a day after that flight and Doug didn't make it much longer. He seemed like a really nice guy and he was a heck of a pilot...........

Mark H

bipe215 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:58 pm

Curtis Block wrote:

It takes less altitude to compleat a loop in a Mig 17 with the flap part way down.

Are you saying that he started the loop with a little flap or that he got some flap on the downline when he saw he was in trouble?

Steve G

JDK · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:09 pm

Quote:

Former astronaut* Frank Borman once said, "A superior pilot uses his superior judgment to avoid situations which require the use of his superior skill."

http://www.copanational.org/non-members ... July00.htm

*And warbird owner / pilot.

Roger Cain · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:56 pm

I've seen a video before on this MiG touching the field, it's out there somewhere in cyberspace

N3Njeff · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:11 pm

I do know that the airplane was flown back to BTV for repairs. A friend of mine remembers the grass hanging from the tail pipe. Thats what we were talking about just last week.
Think it was N306DM

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