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Jack Cook
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This is from a strike camera in the belly of a b-26C of the 323rd Bg in 1945. I'm guessing a FW-190D.

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Looks it to me, I'm guessing a D-9? Also note the Reich defense bands, maybe Jg 2 or 3 (did they fly 109D's?).

great pic!

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Looking at the wing root guns,...I'd say a 190.

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My vote goes to the 190. Note the square tip of the wings and horizontal stabilizer. All my drawings indicate the 109 had rounder tips on both.

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Definitely a 190, and I'd imagine that pilot is in the middle of a good pantspooping, depending on the position of those bombs relative to his aircraft.

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When you guys look at the image for hard data ( :) ), I look at image from a more dramatic perspective. Great image anyhow! :)
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Come on guys you're disappointing me :? Yes, it's a FW-190 but radial or inline??? A D-9 or possibly a TA-152.
That don't look like no radial engined plain jane FW-190 to me :idea:

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OK, it is definitely a Fw 190, and a D model at that. I'm no experten, but the camo & markings look earlyish to me (solid crosses, not the later outlines), so I'd say that it is a D-9, not a late D-11 or D-13. Also, the wing plan looks too stubby to be any of the Ta152 developments.

how's that?

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P.S. Defense bands put this at sometime around or after mid 1944, and if you squint it looks like this aircraft has the early non-blown canopy, but that's a bit of conjecture on my part...I'd say overall this is an early 190D-9, sometime in summer or fall of 1944, belonging to a unit which used a defense band either a solid light colour or a combination of light colours.

here's a link to some unit bands:

http://users.hol.gr/~nowi/luftdef/index.html


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I'd say D-9 I believe the TA-152 had long wings for high altitude performance.

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Early FW 190 D-9 Dora and deinetly not a TA 152, wings are too short.

Pretty cool shot, wonder what was going through his mind when he saw those! :shock:
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Yeah, that nose is longer.
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My money is on the D-9

Can't be D-11, as it mounted four wing cannon. D-9 mounted two wing cannon (like example in photo) plus a pair of cowl machine guns.

It's possible that it may be D-13, but I believe only two or three are documented to have made it to the combat zone.

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That same picture is in 'Osprey Aircraft of the Aces #9', 'Focke-wulf Fw 190 Aces of the Western Front'. It says that it was taken in December 1944 by B26 Marauders of the 9th AF. Its definately a Fw190 D, but what variant I dont have a clue. Maybe the date will help you experts.
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Ya but they don't know what the pilot said :shock: :wink:

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