Japanese Fortress

lestweforget · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 4:48 pm

Amazing photo. Does anyone know the story behind it?

51fixer · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 5:10 pm

Looks like it is taken from another B-17 based on the engines and props in the foreground.
Movie?
Flying Japanese surrender orders?
Rich

David_Aiken · **Joined:** Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:31 pm **Posts:** 403

B-17D is the photo plane...

Both the B-17E and D were in the hands of Japan...

The painted over markings of the IJA test Facility on the tail means that the IJN has taken over the planes for THEIR tests...

Check out other photos of these B-17s at:
http://groups.msn.com/japanesemodelairc ... eb17s.msnw

HTH,
David

Mgawa · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 5:14 pm

Three B-17s were captured by the Japanese in the Philippines and Netherlands East Indies. They were tested by the IJAAF Koku Gijutsu Kenkyujo (Air Technical Research Laboratory) at Tachikawa.

DaveG · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 5:57 pm

gulp!

from http://groups.msn.com/japanesemodelairc ... eb17s.msnw

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 7:58 am

i've seen pics of japanese captured b-17, havoc, buffalo, p- 40 quite common pics & early war vintage, widely circulated pics.. any pics out there of japanese captured p-51's or p-38's??..... doubtful

Mgawa · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 8:13 am

tom d. friedman wrote:

... any pics out there of japanese captured p-51's or p-38's??..... doubtful

So this is the job for the researchers from USA- what they are waiting for?

David_Aiken · **Joined:** Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:31 pm **Posts:** 403

P-51C was test flown by Japan...but not the P-38

How is this for a unique captured US B-25?
http://groups.msn.com/TheDoolittleRaide ... a1942.msnw

Perhaps a F6F?
http://groups.msn.com/japanesemodelairc ... hotoID=687

Mgawa · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 8:46 am

Congratulations Dave

As always you have an answer on dificult questions

As I could note B-25 wear Soviet star?

Cheers

Robbie Roberts · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 12:01 pm

I just found the pics interesting as there was no tail number visible... And the large star in the close up pic looked a little odd... Think they were edited?

Robbie

David_Aiken · **Joined:** Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:31 pm **Posts:** 403

Robbie Roberts wrote:

I just found the pics interesting as there was no tail number visible... And the large star in the close up pic looked a little odd... Think they were edited?

Robbie

The B-25 was sent into combat before the serial number was made manditory, just like the B-17Es which landed at Hickam Field on 7 Dec 1941...as to the large white star on the B-25, the red dot was painted out, and the rest is just the camera sngle. Simple is best.

gemmer · **Joined:** Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:54 am **Posts:** 314

lestweforget wrote:

Amazing photo. Does anyone know the story behind it?

Two E models were captured in Java. The D model was rebuilt at Clark. Its
tail no. was 61/11B ser. no. 40-3095 and was the ship that Colin Kelly flew from Hickam to Clark in September of '41.

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