How many P-36s/H-75s are in existence?

Wolverine · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:31 pm

How many P-36s/H-75s are in existence? I've got:

1 with TFC
1 in NZ (who is the owner?)
1 at the RTAF Museum
1 at the USAF Museum (38-00001)
1 at the Curtiss Hawk Factory?

PS-what are the serials

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:10 am

Wolverine wrote:

How many P-36s/H-75s are in existence? I've got:

1 in NZ (who is the owner?)

PS-what are the serials

Mike Nicholls , Cu-554, C/n 13659

Dave

Mike · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 8:54 am **Posts:** 3331

What's happened to Tom Wilson's 'Curtiss Hawk Factory'? I've heard nothing about it for a number of years now. They had a number of Russian Tomahawk recoveries at one time.

AirJimL2 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:21 am

Are the first one and the last one that same plane? I've been trying to track down more info on the Hawk Factory plane and came up with nothing. I see in the lastest Classic Wings that TFC had the Hawk since the 80s, so I wonder if the Hawk stoped at the Hawk Factory before heading out west?

Jim

Mike · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 8:54 am **Posts:** 3331

Doesn't anyone know any more about the 'Curtiss Hawk Factory'? Are they still in existence? If not, what happened to the airframes that they had?

Mike · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 8:54 am **Posts:** 3331

Thanks Rob

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Col. Rohr wrote:

Tom's a friend of mine from back in the days when he work for David T.

Ask him about the bet he won with his toothbrush, and also about his salad at Flo's Airport Cafe. I've added the latter story to my list of reasons NOT to go there.

turbo_NZ · **Posted:** Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:41 am

Have you seen this beautiful P-36 ?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/740408/M/

TNZ

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

turbo_NZ wrote:

Have you seen this beautiful P-36 ?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/740408/M/

TNZ

That's the one that belongs to TFC.

BarryFoxwell · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:02 am

AirJimL2 “Are the first one and the last one that same plane?” The remains of the TFC Hawk arrived at Duxford in about March 1999 from France. It left for the US to be restored in November 2002. How long dose it take to rebuild a P-36/H-75? OR was the construction number moved from the French machine to the Hawker Factory machine?

happymeal · **Joined:** Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:00 am **Posts:** 215

TFC's Hawk 75 has never been a P-36. Built on contract for the French Air Force, delivered to France. Much beaten up frame, recovered without engine and outter wing section by Michell Pont from the Cazaux gunnery range. Then sold on to Michel Berthelot, in Beauvais, then sold on to Raymond Capel, in La Ferte-Alais, from whom TFC bought it.
There is still a debate in France as wether it is an A-1 or a re-engined A-4. Somebody is diging hard in the archives, and we shall have a definitive answer soon.

T J Johansen · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:56 am

Col. Rohr wrote:

Mike wrote:

What's happened to Tom Wilson's 'Curtiss Hawk Factory'? I've heard nothing about it for a number of years now. They had a number of Russian Tomahawk recoveries at one time.

Hi Mike,

Tom's a friend of mine from back in the days when he work for David T. the last thing I knew he was still building up some of the 40s for Don Brooks.

If I can dig out his Tell. I'll give him a ring to find out what he is up to.

Cheers
RER

I met Tom Wilson at Chino when he was working for Tallichet. In fact, he picked up my A2 jacket from a shop in Santa Monica (I think???). I guess you also know Bruce Crandall the painter guy, and a big guy with glasses we called "Awesome John"! Went with those guys down to Prado Park for a Civil War re-enactment! At that time Todd Merchant worked there, do you know how he's doing?? Is he even alive???

T J

AirJimL2 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:10 am

BarryFoxwell wrote:

The remains of the TFC Hawk arrived at Duxford in about March 1999 from France. It left for the US to be restored in November 2002. How long dose it take to rebuild a P-36/H-75? OR was the construction number moved from the French machine to the Hawker Factory machine?

Barry,

Thanks for the additional information. So the TFC Hawk isn't the same as the Hawk Factory machine. I think the pics of the Hawk Factory machine I've seen were taken in the late 80s. So they are not one and the same if the TFC plane didn't arrive in the U.S. till 2002. So where is the Hawk Factory plane?

Jim

Fred41 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:32 pm

happymeal wrote:

There is still a debate in France as wether it is an A-1 or a re-engined A-4. Somebody is diging hard in the archives, and we shall have a definitive answer soon.

Good news !!
In wich archives ??

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

T J Johansen wrote:

I met Tom Wilson at Chino when he was working for Tallichet. In fact, he picked up my A2 jacket from a shop in Santa Monica (I think???). I guess you also know Bruce Crandall the painter guy, and a big guy with glasses we called "Awesome John"! Went with those guys down to Prado Park for a Civil War re-enactment! At that time Todd Merchant worked there, do you know how he's doing?? Is he even alive???

I saw Todd about 6 months ago at Yanks. He was doing some IA work there. He looked pretty much alive to me! Haven't seen Crandall around in a while (not that I'm everywhere). He told me he got married.

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