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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:28 pm 
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Presently I am putting together the inaugural George Merz Memorial Lecture as part of the Friends of the Royal Australian Air Force Museum activites and the subject will be the history of the North American Mustang. One item I am having great difficulty in tracking down are colour pics of the Cavalier Turbo Mustang III which was produced in the mid-60's and powered by a Roll Royce Dart engine. If anyone has any good shots and is prepared to share I would really appreciate it.

As a footnote George Merz was the first Australian airman to die in combat.

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bait taken - will post a few photos tonight

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Here's a few,

http://www.mustangsmustangs.us/thehanga ... 5msg_id%25

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I was going to post the same photos here - thanks Mike for remembering that thread over on MM - must be getting senile

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...15 years ago one of them still existed---as a gate guardian in Calif. somewhere....another murdered airplane on a pole. :cry:

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P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.

S: Took hammer away from midget.


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Thanks for that gentlemen


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...15 years ago one of them still existed---as a gate guardian in Calif. somewhere....another murdered airplane on a pole. :cry:


There was only ever one Cavalier Turbo Mustang built, and it was remade into the Piper Enforcer.

So, not sure what you saw as a gate guard, but it was not a Turbo Mustang.


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H'bout a nice pic of the Enforcer in storage at Edwards ? Circa 2006

Courtesy of D Lednioer at airliners.net

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Piper-PA-48-Enforcer/1033933/L/

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Michel Lemieux wrote:
H'bout a nice pic of the Enforcer in storage at Edwards ? Circa 2006

Courtesy of D Lednioer at airliners.net

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Piper-PA-48-Enforcer/1033933/L/

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FWIW, not the same airplane that the Turbo Mustang was rebuilt into. The aircraft pictured is one of the Piper PA-48s, which were all-new aircraft built from the ground up (vice modified Mustangs).


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, not the same airplane that the Turbo Mustang was rebuilt into.


I know Randy, but I always liked the Piper Enforcer better in terms of looks :wink:

Is this one available for viewing now ? Or is it still stored ?


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Randy Haskin wrote:
n5151ts wrote:
...15 years ago one of them still existed---as a gate guardian in Calif. somewhere....another murdered airplane on a pole. :cry:


There was only ever one Cavalier Turbo Mustang built, and it was remade into the Piper Enforcer.

So, not sure what you saw as a gate guard, but it was not a Turbo Mustang.


or 2 or maybe 3....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer

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S: Took hammer away from midget.


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One of the PA-48's resides in the NMUSAF.

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In 1971, Piper built two Enforcers by heavily modifying two existing Mustang airframes, fitting them with Lycoming YT55-L9A turboprop engines along with numerous other significant modifications. One airframe was a single seat (called the PE-1 and FAA registered as N201PE), the other a dual-control aircraft (the PE-2, registered N202PE). Prior to the Pave COIN evaluation, N202PE was lost in a crash off the Florida Coast due to flutter caused by a Piper-modified elevator trim tab. Although the Enforcer performed well in Pave COIN test flown by USAF pilots, Piper failed to secure an Air Force contract

For another eight years, Piper and Lindsay lobbied Congress to force the USAF to officially re-evaluate the Enforcer. Eventually in the 1979 defense bill $11.9 million was allocated for Piper to build two new prototypes and for the USAF to perform another flight evaluation. Since the Enforcer was never in the Air Force inventory, it was not given an official military designation and did not receive an Air Force serial number. Instead, it carried the Piper designation PA-48 and FAA registration numbers. [1]

By the time the PA-48s were completed, they shared less than 10 percent of their structure with the P-51, and were longer and larger. Essentially, the PA-48 Enforcer was a completely new aircraft.

The two PA-48s were tested during 1983 and 1984 at Eglin AFB, Florida and Edwards AFB, California. As in the Pave COIN tests of 1971, the PA-48s were found to perform well in their intended role, but the USAF again decided not to purchase any.

N481PE - NMUSAF
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n5151ts wrote:
Randy Haskin wrote:
n5151ts wrote:
...15 years ago one of them still existed---as a gate guardian in Calif. somewhere....another murdered airplane on a pole. :cry:


There was only ever one Cavalier Turbo Mustang built, and it was remade into the Piper Enforcer.

So, not sure what you saw as a gate guard, but it was not a Turbo Mustang.


or 2 or maybe 3....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer


Hey wikipedia must be wrong, it didn't say murdered airplane anywhere.

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I wrote that original wikipedia article on the Enforcer.


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