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 Post subject: Fossett clues found!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:25 pm 
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I just heard on FoxNews on (XM) that a hiker found some personal effects of Steve Fossett's near Mammoth Lakes, CA.

An impromptu search team has been dispatched almost immdeiately, and we should maybe learn something here within a few hours..


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FOX news and other media outlets are reporting that personal items belonging to Steve Fossett have been found by a couple in the Mammoth Lakes area of California.


The couple was hiking when they found FAA ID cards belonging to Fossett - and police are saying the cards are not forged, according to media reports.

An initial search of the area has not turned up any further evidence of the pilot.

A new search effort is reportedly being put together.

Check back with RGJ.com later this afternoon for more details.

Mammoth Lakes isn't exactly on the border. It is west of Hwy 395.
It will be interesting to see how this story develops.

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Wow, interesting development.

I can't wait to hear where this lead goes.

Thanks for posting.

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Possible Fossett ID, other items found in Calif. By JULIANA BARBASSA, Associated Press Writer
19 minutes ago

SAN FRANCISCO - A hiker in a rugged part of eastern California found an ID and other items possibly belonging to Steve Fossett, the adventurer who vanished on a solo flight in a borrowed plane more than a year ago, authorities said Wednesday.

The items were found Monday near the town of Mammoth Lakes, Inyo National Forest spokeswoman Nancy Upham said.

"We have some ID that has the name Steve Fossett," Mammoth Lakes police Investigator Crystal Schafer said. "They were turned in to us and are in our possession."

A Federal Aviation Administration identity card, a pilot ID and about $1,000 in cash were found in a bush, according to David Baumwohl, an attorney for the hiker who recovered the items.

Preston Morrow, who works in a Mammoth Lakes sporting goods store, took the items to the town's police department Wednesday, Baumwohl said.

The hiker initially didn't know who Fossett was, but once he found out, wanted to alert the Fossett family, Baumwohl said.

Michael LoVallo, a lawyer for Fossett's wife, Peggy, said, "We are aware of the reports and are trying to verify the information."

Fossett disappeared Sept. 3, 2007, after taking off in a single-engine plane borrowed from a Nevada ranch owned by hotel magnate Barron Hilton. A judge declared Fossett legally dead in February.

Baumwohl and Morrow tried to contact the law firm that handled the death declaration. When they weren't successful, they decided to turn everything over to the police, the attorney said.

Morrow also found a black Nautica pullover fleece, size XL, but left that at the scene. A quick search for airplane pieces before night fell didn't turn anything up, Baumwohl said.

Chances of finding remains are slim, said the attorney, who is a longtime resident of the mountain town and has followed similar cases.

"He's probably been eaten. This is not the first time this has happened," he said. "When people land in alpine wilderness, there's bears, mountain lions that'll eat the body."

This year's biggest search for Fossett focused on Nevada's Wassuk Range, more than 50 miles north of Mammoth Lakes. That search ended last month.

Mammoth Lakes is at an elevation of more than 7,800 feet on the eastern flank of the Sierra Nevada, where peaks top 13,000 feet.

Fossett made a fortune trading futures and options on Chicago markets. He gained worldwide fame for more than 100 attempts and successes in setting records in high-tech balloons, gliders, jets and boats. In 2002, he became the first person to circle the world solo in a balloon. He was inducted into the National Aviation Hall of Fame in July 2007.

He also swam the English Channel, completed an Ironman Triathlon, competed in the Iditarod dog sled race and climbed some of the world's best-known peaks, including the Matterhorn in Switzerland and Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania.


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It has been interesting how this story has unfolded.
A guy who works in a ski shop finds this stuff on Monday and doesn't know who Fossett is. When he finds out he hires an attorney who then tries to contact Fossett's attorneys. When that fails he hands this stuff over to the authorities?
I have to wonder if the guy was more concerned about the money than anything else.

They will get up to a foot of snow in the area tomorrow. An extra day or two might of helped with the search.

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It has been interesting how this story has unfolded.
A guy who works in a ski shop finds this stuff on Monday and doesn't know who Fossett is. When he finds out he hires an attorney who then tries to contact Fossett's attorneys. When that fails he hands this stuff over to the authorities?
I have to wonder if the guy was more concerned about the money than anything else.

They will get up to a foot of snow in the area tomorrow. An extra day or two might of helped with the search.

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did he find him and wants to "find" him again for the reward....OR....did Steve purposely disappear and this guy found him and Steve gave him the items to be revealed at a later date after Steve was safely in bananastan and got his 1/2 of the insurance....or.....well you get the idea

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It's possible and with a logical explanation, but I sure have some doubts if this is on the level and not a money making scheme.

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As usual I agree with Bill Greenwood........ (both Democrats).... I know a lot about living in the woods, my backyard is 300 acres of woods and mountains. I also know how hard it is to find something back there.......

So when was the last time you left some ID cards lying around in the woods? If nothing else they are paper (or plastic) and they can burn, I'd save them to start a fire. Not abandon them. Not in a wallet? (no mention of that), if I expired, they would be in a wallet waiting for the next fire........ Cards not weathered so you can't read them? Why even pick up "trash" on the ground (maybe the $1000 in cash attracted him) if you are walking in the woods??? (Heck if I could have started a fire, I'd have burned down everything in sight trying to attract attention. There would be the EverGreen 747 dropping slurry on me, the FBI would be looking for me for arson......

Come on. Who is Steve Fossett? I didn't know him or who he was? What did this dude find this stuff walking back from the moon. Seems like everyone one in the area should have heard of Steve, it was in the media for months everyday... Lets go to the lawyer first.. Got to get in the reward line. RIGHT.........

A Nautica Fleece....... If I was Steve when they found it, my dead body would be in it, I wouldn't have abandoned it..... No other articles of clothing, shoes, etc that would have shown he died right there? Animals or not, there would be more there and if I found it, I'd have looked around some.

The whole "how it got to the Police issue" makes it all suspect........

The area must have been 100 miles from where he left South Lake Tahoe area, which is an hour in the Decathlon, can't believe that he'd fly out 100 miles in a plane with say a 250 to 300 mile range......

http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/09/steve ... ation.html

Funny post from 9/6/2007..............
He crashed somewhere, forgot to turn on his radio system, is dead, and will be found (1a: on the land, 1b: in the lake) somewhere, for example in a bush off a trail just west of the town of Mammoth Lakes, California.

Strange they found this stuff at Mammoth Lakes, CA "in a bush"...........

It is nice that the hiker turned in $1000 in cash....... If I was Steve I'd have started a fire with it or it would have been in my pocket it for that for later..........

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from the Hilton ranch to Mammoth lake is about 70 miles, and a Decathalon will fly 300 miles without having to refuel. He was scouting loactions for a future event so range was not a problem.


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It just keeps getting better or worse depending on how you view it. The finder had a film crew from Discovery channel out searching for Fossett on Tuesday. Good grief, I think this guy is just trying to milk it for all it is worth. I think I would toss his rear in jail just to let him re-think his decision about not calling the authorities right away.

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P51Mstg wrote:

http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/09/steve ... ation.html

Funny post from 9/6/2007..............
He crashed somewhere, forgot to turn on his radio system, is dead, and will be found (1a: on the land, 1b: in the lake) somewhere, for example in a bush off a trail just west of the town of Mammoth Lakes, California.

Strange they found this stuff at Mammoth Lakes, CA "in a bush"...........

It is nice that the hiker turned in $1000 in cash....... If I was Steve I'd have started a fire with it or it would have been in my pocket it for that for later..........

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Read item #4 in that blog post.

Something weird is going on here.


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Whilst you guys sleep in the US, BBC News this morning 2nd October here in the UK, reported wreckage sighted from the air.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7647732.stm

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Here's the latest news,

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/02/steve.fossett.search/index.html


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For Love2GoFly......... I read the blog last night and you know I didn't see that "leave 3 ID, sweater and money". Doesn't mean it wasn't there, but I'm sure I would have noticed it if I had saw it.........

Really strange......

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