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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:25 pm 
109 Monument Czech republic 1947

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Is that Steve McQueen in a German uniform holding an MP40 in the second shot?

Wonder what happened to the '109?

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It look like that was normal feature and practice in the comunist countries to place enemy plane as monument but in bent and damaged position. Here in Yugoslavia this symbolized their defeat.

What happen with this plane? I don't know for this particular plane but in most know cxases- dumped. Who need that- there was warcraft wrecks all arround, kids are playing among the wreck of airplanes and tanks and nobody want to hear for the evil enemy and even for own crafts. They all look at the new future and relics from the past are not so interesting after the WW2.

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Seems like quite a solid memorial, was prob there for a few years, looks like a G14 at first glance


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I wonder if the plane wasn't dismantled to provide parts for the Bf-109s and Avia CS 199s the Czech Air Force was using post war? There was a German production line for the 109 at the end of the war and German practice was to work recovered wrecks into the line to be rebuilt so the Czechs could easily have done the same since they kept that line open for a few years. Reportedly they did scour the country for wrecked 109s to supplement production.

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It's not a 14, but it is a funny one; notice the high oil filler flap for the larger oil tank showing it could have a D motor (if a motor was fitted), notice also the lack of large bulges/any bulges although it could be an 14AS but then it would not have the high oil flap, The Pr16 position cannot be seen it looks like it's been wiped off. I can't see a cockpit ventilation flap although it could be there. Also there is one major problem with this plane and that is the fact it has no super charger intake which is generally a major problem if you wanted to fly the thing, it also has no shrouds over the exhaust stubs, I don't know exactly what the czechs got up to post war with the 109's but this one is bit odd.
I think it is a fix up job of a crashed G-10 (due to it having a high oil flap and small wheel bulges and large tail) but at the same time they have used a strange cowling without a supercharger intake, and on the fuselage they haven't fitted the cabin ventilation so its a bit of a frankenstein's monster.
These are just my thoughts, there are some serious 109 boffs out there who will probably shoot this guess down!


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There would have been NO shortage of G10s around there then


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Excellent shots of the G6's any info with them? Lots of nice detail in them, abandoned/post war photos are the biggest tease out there!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:18 pm 
Hi

They are credited to the website in the first post, some brilliant images of WW2 German armour in Czech as well

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I'm an armour buff as well, so images like this are great for detail etc

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Awesome,
New K4 photo I haven't seen before what a goldmine

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Great pics!

Interesting to see the 109s have metal props. I was under the impression that the Luftwaffe had mostly switched to wooden blades by the end of the war.

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Steve Nelson wrote:
Great pics!

Interesting to see the 109s have metal props. I was under the impression that the Luftwaffe had mostly switched to wooden blades by the end of the war.

SN



190D9's used alot of wooden props, perhaps thats what your thinking about?


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