New Flying Tigers Movie

Russ Matthews · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:39 pm

Apparently Tom Cruise is developing an AVG film with his "Valkyrie" screenwriter Christopher McQuarrie...

http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=23911

Hellcat · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:12 pm

I can already assume what most here will think, but personally I'm not too interested in a WW2 aviation movie that usually relys on incorrect aircraft types if real warbirds are used. Unless this production goes with all CGI and accurate CGI, then you will see incorrect P-40 types used and even if the film is well made, people like me will, all through the film, be reminded of the obvious errors everytime we see a P-40 .... :cry:

BUT!!!!! ..... I'll give it a chance to entertain me .... :wink:

Mark the film critic

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:19 pm

I can handle the use of P-40E's and a CAF replica Japanese Force. Anything that will bring WWII aviation into the spotlight, and get the veterans more recognition is a good thing. Look at what Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers and even Pearl Harbor has done. It got people to get their noses into the books and read, and learn abou tthe heroes of that war.

Pogo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:28 pm

What's CGI? Thanks!

Kurt the uneducated

Hellcat wrote:

I can already assume what most here will think, but personally I'm not too interested in a WW2 aviation movie that usually relys on incorrect aircraft types if real warbirds are used. Unless this production goes with all CGI and accurate CGI, then you will see incorrect P-40 types used and even if the film is well made, people like me will, all through the film, be reminded of the obvious errors everytime we see a P-40 .... :cry:

BUT!!!!! ..... I'll give it a chance to entertain me .... :wink:

Mark the film critic

Hellcat · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:31 pm

Pogo wrote:

:?: What's CGI? Thanks!

Kurt the uneducated

Hellcat wrote:

I can already assume what most here will think, but personally I'm not too interested in a WW2 aviation movie that usually relys on incorrect aircraft types if real warbirds are used. Unless this production goes with all CGI and accurate CGI, then you will see incorrect P-40 types used and even if the film is well made, people like me will, all through the film, be reminded of the obvious errors everytime we see a P-40 .... :cry:

BUT!!!!! ..... I'll give it a chance to entertain me .... :wink:

Mark the film critic

CGI ... 'Computer Generated Imagery'

John Dupre · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:36 pm

There's this thing called Artistic License. Artists can use it to overcome problems or to create situations that wouldn't normally exist among other things. I wasn't impressed with the Star Wars type CGI flying of The Film That Won't Be Named but the initials are PH. Maybe a better director would overcome that. I know there aren't enough genuine early P-40s to make a good movie so use E's or N's or whatever.

I would be more interested in plot, writing, acting, direction and continuity. If they mix up a few N model Warhawks with E's or C's I don't care. I wonder what they are using for reference and research? There has been a lot of really good research done on the AVG that far surpasses the old propaganda and self serving autobiographies.

I want to see a lot of Julieanne Moore as Olga Greenlaw and I mean a lot.

Obergrafeter · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:52 pm

Don't care about the model of airplanes as long as there P-40s, but please ...please....please not Tom Cruise as "Tex Hill"! About two feet different in height, I will personally bring Masey to Hollywood and put an end to that crap if that is who he wants to play.

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:01 pm

The Production company just has to make some deals with the FHC and Provence Fighter Sales. If they plan ahead, I bet they could get these 2 genuine long nose P-40s, and probably enough E's and N's for background shooting.

Not only that but a few Oscars, some Zeros, and some CGI Mabels and were ready to go!

jtramo · **Joined:** Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:39 pm **Posts:** 359

This Flying Tigers movie has been in the works with several different studios/writers (whichever) for at least ten years. I think I first heard about it in high school. I think its awesome that its moving along.

I read today in the Wall Street Journal that the producer of Valkyrie said the CGI budget was used up making Toms fingers dissapear for the remainder of the movie after the P-40 scene left him wounded. They didnt have enough money left to do a CGI P-40, and it was cheaper to get real aircraft out to the desert then CGI them. I found that to be an amazingly awesome excuse to use real aircraft with real sound. CGI will never look right.

rwdfresno · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:30 pm

Hellcat wrote:

I can already assume what most here will think, but personally I'm not too interested in a WW2 aviation movie that usually relys on incorrect aircraft types if real warbirds are used. Unless this production goes with all CGI and accurate CGI, then you will see incorrect P-40 types used and even if the film is well made, people like me will, all through the film, be reminded of the obvious errors everytime we see a P-40 .... :cry:

BUT!!!!! ..... I'll give it a chance to entertain me .... :wink:

Mark the film critic

I much rather see real incorrect P-40s all day long before seeing another CGI aircraft. The CGI aircraft are so hideous I can't imagine why anyone would prefer CGI over the real thing, wrong model or not. I hate CGI aircraft so much I rather watch them ride around on bikes with cards in the spokes making machine guns sounds with their mouths than use CGI aircraft.

Ryan

camshaw · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:55 pm

rwdfresno wrote:

Hellcat wrote:

I can already assume what most here will think, but personally I'm not too interested in a WW2 aviation movie that usually relys on incorrect aircraft types if real warbirds are used. Unless this production goes with all CGI and accurate CGI, then you will see incorrect P-40 types used and even if the film is well made, people like me will, all through the film, be reminded of the obvious errors everytime we see a P-40 .... :cry:

BUT!!!!! ..... I'll give it a chance to entertain me .... :wink:

Mark the film critic

I much rather see real incorrect P-40s all day long before seeing another CGI aircraft. The CGI aircraft are so hideous I can't imagine why anyone would prefer CGI over the real thing, wrong model or not. I hate CGI aircraft so much I rather watch them ride around on bikes with cards in the spokes making machine guns sounds with their mouths than use CGI aircraft.

Ryan

I agree with that one hundred percent, no more of this new age CG crap, Lucas has ruined all the star wars shows from after return of the Jedi with all their cg junk....it looks like a glorified cartoon and is definately not convincing, as is the new indian jones cg show,it sucked....use real planes, do us all a favor...

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:01 pm

I was always easy to get over the wrong model type. I didn't expect the makers of PH to go and build full scale replica and flying B-25B's for the Dolittle Raid. We all get the idea.

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:41 pm

with all the movie drivel out lately with the exception of the nixon movie, valkryie, & some new squint eastwood movie, a flying tigers flick sounds great!!

Glen · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:57 pm

Obergrafeter wrote:

Don't care about the model of airplanes as long as there P-40s, but please ...please....please not Tom Cruise as "Tex Hill"! About two feet different in height, I will personally bring Masey to Hollywood and put an end to that crap if that is who he wants to play.

Hey why not try to get Tommy Lee Jones to play the old man cant think of anybody better that would be suited for that role. kinda looks like him too :wink:

A2C · **Posted:** Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:09 am

This will be good for aviation. Think of how much interest this generates in aviation from the public!

I salute Tom Cruise for using his considerable clout to support this.

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