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Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:00 pm

GSA Audit finds Navy storing $7.5 Billion in unneeded parts

( story from the Boston Globe) Date: 12/18/2008

Analysis fuels calls to reduce defense budget
By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff

WASHINGTON - Government auditors identified at least $7.5 billion worth of unneeded spare parts stored in Navy warehouses yesterday, the latest example of wasteful military spending that is fueling calls for President-elect Barack Obama to take bold action to rein in the Defense Department's bloated budget.

Between 2003 and 2007, the Navy's supply of replacement parts for ships and aircraft far exceeded its needs, the Government Accountability Office found during a new audit. Indeed, in some instances investigators found stocks of equipment that the service is unlikely to use up for decades - such as 13,852 engine blades for its F/A-18 fighter jets estimated to be worth $3.6 million.

In total, the Navy has nearly 2 million more aircraft parts than its own projections deem necessary, while it is storing 10 million ship parts designated as excess, the report found. The cost of storing the equipment alone is $18 million, the GAO estimated.

"Based on Navy demand forecasts, inventory that exceeded current requirements was sufficient to satisfy several years, or even decades, of supply needs," according to the investigation, which was requested by Senator Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent.

Several factors contributed to the unnecessary purchases, including inefficiency in the Navy's inventory management and a limited ability to accurately forecast equipment needs, congressional auditors said.

"As a result, the Navy had billions of dollars in excess inventory against current requirements each year," the GAO concluded, including some pieces of equipment that are still on order but already slated for disposal because they won't be needed.

Another example cited in the report was seven sonar sets for attack submarines that have been sitting in storage since 1991 and that the Navy never plans to use. And last year alone the Navy had 85,700 "unique items" in its spare parts inventory - valued at $1.9 billion - for which it had no projected demand.

Sanders, who sought the audit and cosponsored legislation earlier this year to create a special oversight board to root out wartime waste, called the findings "unbelievable and outrageous." He urged Obama to take action next year to safeguard taxpayer funds.

"At a time when the nation has a $10.6 trillion debt, we simply cannot afford the continuing uncontrollable waste across the federal agencies," Sanders, a member of the Senate Budget Committee, said in a written statement.

He added: "Unfortunately, this is not just the Navy, but something the entire military has to address. I hope the next administration will take the issue seriously."

Obama has said he will make cutting wasteful government spending a top priority.

Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, whom Obama has asked to stay on indefinitely, has also sent clear signals in recent weeks that he, too, is committed to taking the axe to Pentagon programs he deems unnecessary.

In the meantime, the Pentagon, which concurred with the report's recommendations for improving supply chain management, pledged to take action.

The findings come as the Commission of Wartime Contracting, established by Congress this year to investigate waste, fraud, and abuse in Pentagon purchasing, prepares to hold its first public hearing in February.

But Sanders, in a telephone interview yesterday from Vermont, said far more needs to be done, vowing to author legislation to make it illegal for the military to spend appropriations on spare parts it cannot justify.

"We have been talking about this issue of unused and unneeded spare parts for many years," Sanders told the Globe. "We need legislation to make sure the Pentagon is not wasting billions of dollars."

Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:06 pm

I hear that the POF and Yanks Air Museum are looking for F-14 parts...... :)

Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:35 pm

(My pet peeve):
Lake Michigan has a lot of spare parts that the Navy will not use in the foreseeable future.
VL

Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:40 pm

Mine too, hey maybe Carl Levin can help..yeah right..

Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:18 pm

Excuse me A2C...

What specifically did Carl Levin have to do with this?

Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:19 pm

This is what happens when you have MBAs trying to run the military.

Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:22 pm

Or is it...

When you have the military run the MBA's?

:wink:

Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:41 pm

Carl Levin is the Senate Armed Services Chairman. He is on record of being very antigun, he and his senior counsel Mr.Levine were very prodemil legislation that we were talking about on another thread. They would rather demil ( destroy most of those parts than run them through the system ) the parts. When they need them and go to the surplus community to buy them back they won't be there.

Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:01 pm

I hope they spend just as much time rooting out waste from social programs. But I doubt they will.... :x

Don't they call government waste a stimulus package now? :roll:

Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:12 pm

:shock: well.... in this economy i'd say it's to ebay, or a huge garage sale at the white house

Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:49 pm

For the most part, I don't really understand why someone has his/her briefs in a bunch over this. Much of the "excess" stuff has little or no civilian use (example - spare sonar units), so it isn't like Uncle Sam can sell it and recoup the expense.

Sure, there are storage costs, but my guess is that they still find a use (or need) for stuff from the "we don't really need it list".

Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:34 pm

Kyleb, it's not about the sonar units. The majority of this equipment does have acivilian application. Have you ever been to a DRMO ?

As far as the sonar units go, have you ever been fishing in the Gulf of Mexico and almost run over a submarine ? :lol:

Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:39 pm

My issue is with the waste...as one example in the report:

"In total, the Navy has nearly 2 million more aircraft parts than its own projections deem necessary, while it is storing 10 million ship parts designated as excess, the report found."

Please read the report, or at least the article about it...

Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:17 pm

when i'm ready for bed i'll read it........ zzzzzzzzz snore....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......snore. that report probably deforested 10,000 trees. but were going green :mrgreen: remember??

Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:23 am

bdk wrote:
Don't they call government waste a stimulus package now? :roll:


That's all I could think of when I was reading the article, now I need to stimulate my economy and finish posting some classified ads for my excess VW parts.

Wouldnt it be funny if there was a Craigslist.gov? :shock:
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