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 Post subject: TBDs, 3 are know but...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:18 pm 
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I now have seem pictures of three airframes around the world. Why has not the Navy made a more on at lest one of these a/c?

Is the Navy's hands tied but the NHC also? It seems that this is a type that NEEDS to be displayed in FL.

Any ideas, Any imput from those who know?

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 Post subject: TBD
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Tim,
Don't even try and understand those guys. You'll just get a headache. They've had 3 opportunities to acquire the only remaining (and flying) Spartan NP-1 Navy primary trainer and have managed to insult and attempt to screw over the owner each time. They've been given a third and final chance which they don't deserve. We'll see.

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I guess I've forgottten a few things sense I left the Nav several years ago. :wink:

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Which are these? What's so exciting? There are TBM's everywhere.

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I think I must have pink eye or something.

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chalk 1 up in our win column!! the u.s. navy just lost a fight with a guy that recovered a wrecked corsair some where in the southern u.s. they raked this guy over the coals over time. he held his ground & prevailed. their is hope in fighting the naval museum godzilla. tom

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Just in case no one has seen these pics. http://www.tighar.org/Projects/Devastat ... erican.htm

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 Post subject: TIGHAR says 'Yes'
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If you look on the TIGHAR site, you'll find that they RECOMMEND that the TBD's in Jaluit lagoon be recovered to prevent looting. They say "In TIGHAR's view, the most appropriate and only practical repository for the aircraft is the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola, Florida."
Too bad they only talk the talk, not walk the walk...


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They can have the corroded hulks. It's good for real rebuilders that they waste all their time on dead ends.


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colonel r, i'd say you let em have it with both shotgun barrels!! & much deserved. keep it up!! tighar is a bunch of elmer gantry's. to bad on the tbd, it must be like aluminum powder by now & once exposed to air, darn near vaporized. if raised maybe they ought to put it in a tank with some gold fish to preserve what's left that the sea salt hasn't eaten after all these years of squawking!! time is of the essence. best, tom

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Well, keep in mind, they waste their own time on a dead end. That's a good thing.

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Ah yes,Mr.Dick Gillespie
I have mentioned this blowhard a couple of times here on wix.The name Dick is so appropriate.How this blowhard got himself and his band of bozo's legitimized in the eyes of the mainstream media is beyond me,It shows beyond the shadow of a doubt what the state of the media truely is today.We all should remember how he and his merry band went to the island of Nikamororo(?) in the south Pacific,stumbled around in the intense equitorial sun(something that you must experience to believe,very intense,believe me)found a couple of scraps of aircraft aluminum and the heal of an old womans shoe and then announced to the world that he had solved the mystery of Amelia Earhart's disappearance!I remember watching the T.V. special where he displayed his "evidence" and thinking to myself"that's it?that's all?he's full of sh-t!.This is just one example of his B.S. and dellusions of grandeur.He's nothing but a con man.no more,no less. Tim :shock:

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This is just one example of his B.S. and dellusions of grandeur.He's nothing but a con man.no more,no less. Tim :shock:


Come on, tell us what you REALLY think. :D

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re gillespie : that grandstanding press conference was as funny as when geraldo rivera opened al capone's safe on tv & it had nothing but air in it!!

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HI AS FAR AS THE GENTALMAN WINNING THE CORSAIR AND BEATING THE NAVY I HAVE A LITTLE UPDATE.I BELIEVE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LEX CRAWLEYS CASE,HE RECIEVED THE PAPER WORK GIFTING HIM THE A/C ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS #1 THIS A/C CAN NEVER BE FLOWN!! #2 IT CAN NEVER BE SOLD IF HE NO LONGER WANTS IT IT RETURNS TO THE NAVY #3 THE A/C MUST BE COVERED BY A 2 MILLION DOLLAR INSURANCE POLICY IN HIS NAME AND ALSO THE U.S.NAVYS AS BENIFACTORS.#4 ANY CHANGES TO THE A/C MUST BE APROVED BY THE N H C AS TO NOT DESTROY ITS HISTORICAL ASPECT. ECT ECT ECT .THIS CAME AS SEVERAL PAGES OF B.S RESTRICTING ANY IDEA OF OWNING A FLYABLE A/C .IF THIS IS YOUR IDEA OF BEATING THE NAVY WE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT WITH ALOT OF SUPPORT AND LEGAL HELP HE MAY END UP WITH THE CORSAIR BUT IT LOOKS TO BE FAR FROM OVER.THE MEETING IN PENSACOLA HAS BEEN SET FOR APRIL 22-24 I NEED TO KNOW WHO WANTS TO BE INVOLVED THAT CAN HELP STOP THIS TWISTED VIEW OF PRESEVATION E-ME AT HELLDIVERS@AOL.COM THANKS MIKE

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