T-34C

Warren_C · **Posted:** Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:11 pm

Just wondering when or if the T-34C will be sold to the Civilian market. If so would they be sold in lots? What do think an average price would be? Just dreaming out loud.

Warren

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:31 pm

IS that because the Charlie is such a huge threat to our nation in the wrong hands? :roll:

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Col. Rohr wrote:

The prototype was accidental sold some time back but the US Navy as stated that the Charlie will never be offered to Civilian Market.

This also means if you try to go overseas and buy a surplus Charlie from any Countrys that are using them the FAA will not give you a Airworthy Certific.

Rob, help me out here! I know you can't import an American weapon given as part of an MAP or Lend/Lease program without State Department authorization, but how or why would the FAA stop you from licensing any subsonic aircraft in the Experimental-Exhibition category?

Once inside the US, I wouldn't think you would have any more trouble licensing a T-34C than you would an L-29.

For the record:

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/nnumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=190AC
http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/nnumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=40225
http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/nnumsql.asp?NNumbertxt=4020P
http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/nnumsql.asp?NNumbertxt=4021A

And of course one owned by NASA and 3 by Raytheon.

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:43 pm

the t-34 is a tsa nightmare lately!! to epidemic proportions!!

HarvardIV · **Joined:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:08 pm **Posts:** 1437

Quote:

This also means if you try to go overseas and buy a surplus Charlie from any Countrys that are using them the FAA will not give you a Airworthy Certific.

Unless you chnge out the data plate, or convert to parts and rebuild it to a different model..

HarvardIV · **Joined:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:08 pm **Posts:** 1437

You're saying a T-34C wing and fuselage are different?

HarvardIV · **Joined:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:08 pm **Posts:** 1437

I don't think you can tell unless you open the thing up.

Chris

HarvardIV · **Joined:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:08 pm **Posts:** 1437

If you say so, I'd have to see one myself. However it's very hard to tell a Harvard from a T-6. You have to know what you're looking for..
Chris

RMB · **Posted:** Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:01 pm

A C has a wider canopy so there is a joggle at the base of the windscreen to compensate for it. Also the aileron has 4 hinge points instead of 3. I heard they lost an aileron on the prototype C then beefed it up a bit.
If you call the FAA right now and say you want to have them look at your T-34 they would probably say "WRONG # this is for chinese take out" and hang up. That T-34 situation is a mess and I dont think it will get better for some time.

HarvardIV · **Joined:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:08 pm **Posts:** 1437

Quote:

If you call the FAA right now and say you want to have them look at your T-34 they would probably say "WRONG # this is for chinese take out" and hang up. That T-34 situation is a mess and I dont think it will get better for some time.

Hey that's an easy way out. Ha Ha Ha hA :wink:

Ollie · **Posted:** Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:20 pm

The wing is not the same on the T-34C. They have different wing tips, and it's more slender.

The tail is taller and there are LERX on the stab.

Plus there's a PT-6A up in the nose.

:wink:

Robbie Stuart · **Posted:** Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:23 pm

We maintained T-34C1 s/n: GM89 for several years. This aircraft carried a Standard Airworthiness Certificate, & was very different from the A/B models in many ways. Unfortunately the aircraft was lost along with its owner & a friend of his in a fuel starvation accident Aug 1, 1995 in route to Oshkosh. This aircraft had been a Beech demonstrator/test aircraft, & had to go through, as I remember some special certification process before being sold outside the company. It was a really neat aircraft, & was not bad to work on.
Regards
Robbie Stuart

wendovertom · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:47 am

somewhat related question - so if the T-34C is not allowed at all - Why then can you buy a Pilatus PC-9 if you have the 2.7M? (Check the Courtesy aircraft site)

This is the same plane as the AF is using and that the Navy is replacing the T-34C with.

Maybe because it is not a domestic plane? Just wondering.

Tom P

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