Name for older cleco?

pilot06 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:48 pm

Anyone know the name of the older cleco (sheet metal clamp) shown in the photo?

Thanks LoC for all the great photos.

Patrick

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:22 pm

Not sure about the clamp but the photo sure captures the essence of who "Rosie the Riveter" really was.

Holedigger · **Posted:** Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:13 pm

Yeah, but she sure isn't working. Holding a chuck like that and pulling the trigger might be bad! :shock:

As well as hair that long, not tied back.....Nicely staged shot though! Great color and lighting

Mudge · **Posted:** Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:50 pm

OSHA would have a seizure. :shock:

Mudge the safe

flyboyj · **Joined:** Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:01 pm **Posts:** 157

"Older Cleco"

sdennison · **Posted:** Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:59 am

Holedigger wrote:

Yeah, but she sure isn't working. Holding a chuck like that and pulling the trigger might be bad! :shock:

As well as hair that long, not tied back.....Nicely staged shot though! Great color and lighting

Dude, you're not serious?

I would and have held the drill in much the same manner to set the point where it needed to be. Hair pulled back? You can't tell me that was a concern during the war? I'm calling legit here. Sorry.

John Dupre · **Posted:** Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:44 am

sdennison wrote:

Holedigger wrote:

Yeah, but she sure isn't working. Holding a chuck like that and pulling the trigger might be bad! :shock:

As well as hair that long, not tied back.....Nicely staged shot though! Great color and lighting

Dude, you're not serious?

I would and have held the drill in much the same manner to set the point where it needed to be. Hair pulled back? You can't tell me that was a concern during the war? I'm calling legit here. Sorry.

Up to a point it could be legit. But ultimately pulling hair back became a very important safety concern after dozens of women were injured by having thier hair caught in tools and machines. There was an actress famous more for her peek-a-boo hair style than her acting skill who made an example of restlying her hair shorter just to emphasize the point.

John Dupre · **Posted:** Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:16 am

According to my 1942 Aircraft Riveting text book by Albert Nisita that type of fastener is called a Sknin-tite and is described as a toggle type sheet holder operated by means of an arm pivoted on a tubular rivet and requires no tools for operation.

Another temporary sheet metal fastener described is a "June Bug" This is a two piece tool consisting of a wooden wedge with a slot in it and a rod bent ito a T with a slight hook at long end. The rod is inserted in the hole and wedge is driven up under the T head. Curtiss apparently used these in early P-40 production.

pilot06 · **Posted:** Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:18 pm

John,

I should have check my copy of the book. Very good book. I wonder if they are still available.

Thanks for the reply.

Patrick

Shay · **Posted:** Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:55 pm

sdennison wrote:

Holedigger wrote:

Dude, you're not serious?

I would and have held the drill in much the same manner to set the point where it needed to be. Hair pulled back? You can't tell me that was a concern during the war? I'm calling legit here. Sorry.

Almost all of these Library of Congress worker shots are staged. Nice clothes, make-up, Hair done, pefect lighting, these things do not a factory worker make.

...how bout a nice cup of hot air?

This one is more realistic with hair pulled up and working clothes, but picture is still staged with lighting for the photo. Perhapse the already installed rivets needed a 2nd bucking.

Shay
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Semper Fortis

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:23 pm

Which is why car ads on TV have the disclaimer at the bottom 'professioal driver on closed course, donot attempt' Too bad NASCAR won't run that during televised races, it might cut down on the morons on the freeways that see JR. doin' that it can't be that hard and who then need to cut you off to make the next exit, are they going for track position? ("two tires and 1 can of fuel")

Just about every PR shot is staged, Wasn't there a posting just a few months ago about a young woman selected from the office pool to pose as a worker @ Martin or Chance Vought and all the grief the real women workers gave her over it? Do you think all that perfect lighting comes from whats in the factory? Concentrate more on that heavy, hot electric drill that the young lady is swinging for about 94 cents an hour x 10 hours x 6 days a week.

ZRX61 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:16 am **Posts:** 2309

pilot06 wrote:

John,

I should have check my copy of the book. Very good book. I wonder if they are still available.

Thanks for the reply.

Patrick

no hits on google for them, but I'd like a few to go on the "cool stuff" shelf

Pogo · **Posted:** Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:19 pm

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...... no hits on google for them, but I'd like a few to go on the "cool stuff" shelf

http://openlibrary.org/b/OL6437152M/Aircraft_riveting

Good heavens, I can't believe I actually made a successful search. Guess I really love my books.....

John Dupre · **Posted:** Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:17 am

I want to know if there are any of these Skin-tite fasteners available. A casual search shows only the Cleco style and others similar to them.

SHAEF1944 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:31 am

There was an actress famous more for her peek-a-boo hair style than her acting skill who made an example of restlying her hair shorter just to emphasize the point.

Known as "the Peek-a-Boo Girl," actress Veronica Lake was a film star in the early 1940's. The blond beauty was known for her hairstyle, which cascaded over her right eye; it was emulated so much that U.S. government officials actually asked her to change the style during World War II, for fear that women working on assembly lines as part of the wartime effort might be injured by having their long hair caught in their machinery.

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