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 Post subject: 2010 End of an Era
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Sadly with the end of the year marks the end of the Underground Secret Bunker at Boerne Stage. Scene of a few neat restorations and home to several others has succomed to the economic times. Karens O-2 has left the building and Russ' T-28 is on the starboard cat ready to leave. "Hals undt bien bruch" to all who have made the 20 yr. run possible.
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Just so long as everyone understands that 2010 is the end of the decade. :wink: Twenty years sounds like a good long run.

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Just so long as everyone understands that 2010 is the end of the decade.

Dec 31st 2010 is the end of the decade, we still have 364 days to go ;)

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Sadly with the end of the year marks the end of the Underground Secret Bunker at Boerne Stage. Scene of a few neat restorations and home to several others has succomed to the economic times. Karens O-2 has left the building and Russ' T-28 is on the starboard cat ready to leave. "Hals undt bien bruch" to all who have made the 20 yr. run possible.
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So, is Boerne Stage airport closing down, or is it just that all of the restorations are leaving? If it's closing down, then why? Can you provide more info?


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So, is Boerne Stage airport closing down?

I can answer this one: NO, 5C1 is not closing down.

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I wonder what the trend will be over the next several years as the cost of aviation continues to rise and many of the greatest generation leave us. I often wonder if the popularity of WWII warbirds will diminish over time as we futher seperate ourselves from that time period. With later war warbirds seeming to increase in popularity and the cost and availability of these types less than WWII tpyes I wonder what will happen to the warbird industry.

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Yep. This used to throw me too. When Y2K rolled around there was this same debate, I guess we'll hear it again in 2020, and so on...
Rule of Thumb: Ask yourself this simple question - is the number 10 a part of the preceding 9 digits, which constitute a group of ten (yes), or part of the next sequence of ten numbers (no)? The same logic applies to 2000 and 2010. Logically, then, 2001 is the first year in the Second Millennium, and so 2010 is the last year in the first decade of the Second Millennium. Okay fine, its a slow day, so what the hey! :roll:


Since we use the Gregorian calendar which started on January 1, 1 that would mean that the first decade ended December 31, 10. Hence the same with year 2000. The 20th century ended on December 31, 2000 and the 21st began January 1, 2001. There was no year 0 in the Gregarian calendar.

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Ask yourself this simple question - is the number 10 a part of the preceding 9 digits, which constitute a group of ten (yes), or part of the next sequence of ten numbers (no)?


What? So 1990 was part of "the '80s"?

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No Boerne Stage will continue (despite its' management), but I have shut down my operation and sold my hangar so no more underground restorations. Still a few warbirds around...T-6, L-19, L-4 etc. but no more nice guy (me) to kick around. I'll still be around other places so I'll see you guys somewhere (especially you Ryan)


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Ask yourself this simple question - is the number 10 a part of the preceding 9 digits, which constitute a group of ten (yes), or part of the next sequence of ten numbers (no)?


What? So 1990 was part of "the '80s"?


... and I wore the parachute pants to prove it. :D

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Since we use the Gregorian calendar which started on January 1, 1 that would mean that the first decade ended December 31, 10. Hence the same with year 2000. The 20th century ended on December 31, 2000 and the 21st began January 1, 2001. There was no year 0 in the Gregarian calendar.


Of course, there was also no year 1, or year 10, or even a year 500. The Anno Domini system, which was adopted by the Gregorian calendar, was first conceived in what would now be called 525 A.D. and came into widespread use starting in the 11th century. So there wasn't even a big party for the year 1000 (or 1001), and certainly people weren't running around 2,009 years ago saying, "Hey, happy 1!". This is all an exercise in creative backdating. And whether the year thought (probably incorrectly) to be that of Christ's birth was 1 A.D. or 0 is purely an academic matter.

Therefore, it is a completely arbitrary and rather pedantic convention to insist that a decade runs from, say, 2001 to 2010 rather than 2000 to 2009. It makes at least as much sense to define a decade by a common next-to-last digit. Perhaps more sense, in the digital age.

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There was a year 1 AD. Just because the dating system was not in use at that time makes the date no less real. A calendar is a system of measurement and the Gregorian calender begins at January 1, 1 AD.

When Celcius first applied his system of measurement to a thermometer and determined that 100 degrees would be he melting point of ice it no less meant that at 32 degrees Fahrenheit was the melting point of ice. Also, it isn't to say that the ice didn't melt prior to either system of measurement being invented, similarly the year 1 existed more than 1581 years prior to Friday, 15 October 1582 when the calendar was adopted by the Catholic Church.

It depends on your definition of "widespread use" but there was not much adoption prior to the 16th century.

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rwdfresno wrote:
Since we use the Gregorian calendar which started on January 1, 1 that would mean that the first decade ended December 31, 10. Hence the same with year 2000. The 20th century ended on December 31, 2000 and the 21st began January 1, 2001. There was no year 0 in the Gregarian calendar.


Of course, there was also no year 1, or year 10, or even a year 500. The Anno Domini system, which was adopted by the Gregorian calendar, was first conceived in what would now be called 525 A.D. and came into widespread use starting in the 11th century. So there wasn't even a big party for the year 1000 (or 1001), and certainly people weren't running around 2,009 years ago saying, "Hey, happy 1!". This is all an exercise in creative backdating. And whether the year thought (probably incorrectly) to be that of Christ's birth was 1 A.D. or 0 is purely an academic matter.

Therefore, it is a completely arbitrary and rather pedantic convention to insist that a decade runs from, say, 2001 to 2010 rather than 2000 to 2009. It makes at least as much sense to define a decade by a common next-to-last digit. Perhaps more sense, in the digital age.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium ... lebrations

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On topic, I hope things work out for you Ober.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 End of an Era
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k5083 wrote:
Therefore, it is a completely arbitrary and rather pedantic convention to insist that a decade runs from, say, 2001 to 2010 rather than 2000 to 2009.
What's with all this numerology? It's probably much more important when someone turns 16, 18, 21 or 35 because that gives them some specific legal rights. The ages 10, 20, 30 or 40 are really meaningless as is the year 1000, 2000, etc. Was the fact that my wife and I celebrated my 11th anniversary recently less important than when we celebrated the 10th? We should count every day we have on this earth a blessing! :wink:


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