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 Post subject: P-39 incident
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:35 am 
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According to the FAA Accident "short list":

1943 Bell P39 N6968, serial 219597 ran off the end of the runway
and hit a fence at Fredericksburg, Texas. Substantial damage
is reported but fortunately, no injuries. This occurred on 4/18/05.

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Bummer.... dont like it when we read "substantial damage" but good to hear no injuries. What kind of brakes are on the 39? Same as a 63?

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Aaaahhhh.... rats! Good to hear the pilot is OK though.

This would be Miss Connie. From the registry...
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p39-p63r ... 19597.html
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My thoughts exactly, Michael...thankfully the pilot is ok.

One can't help but feel a bit bad for the PIC in these situations. I know how awful I would feel if such a rare aircraft was damaged with me at the wheel.

And now the worst part...the high probability of enduring another series of "if-only-the-CAF-operated-their-aircraft-properly" rants.

"It's enough to make you weep..." :?

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Yup, glad to hear the pilot is safe. Did this accident occur upon take-off
or landing?

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I agree and hope there's no CAF bashing over this.
But, has the saying goes..........if it wasn't for bad luck
these boys wouldn't have much luck at all. Except in this
case no one was hurt.

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With the pilot being ok, hopeful that is correct, Lets hope that the damage is over reported to the a/c. She is a beatiful plane! I wish more where flying around.

Lets really hope there is a bit of confusion here and nothing over ran the runway.

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Bash :ouch: Bash :mrgreen:

Aircraft can be rebuilt (most of the time). Pilots not so much so. Good to hear the pilot is ok.

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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 6968 Make/Model: P39 Description: P-39 Airacobra
Date: 04/18/2005 Time:

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: FREDERICKSBURG State: TX Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT RAN OFF THE RWY AND HIT A FENCE. SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE AND NO INJURIES
IS REPORTED. OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNKNOWN. FREDERICKSBURG, TX

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Unknown Operation: General Aviation

Departed: MIDLAND, TX MAF Dep Date: 04/18/2005 Dep. Time:
Destination: SAN MARCOS, TX HYI Flt Plan: NONE Wx Briefing: Y
Last Radio Cont: UNKN
Last Clearance: NONE

FAA FSDO: SAN ANTONIO, TX (SW17) Entry date: 04/20/2005
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also check www.commemorativeairforce.org/news/2005 ... 42005.html

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Not too bad then.


Good thing the pilot is OK!

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Jack Cook
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So let me get this straight.
The FAA says accident....
The CAF says incident.....
The FAA says substantial damage....
The CAF says minor damage........
Who do you believe???
Where's the photos?

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Jack Cook wrote:
So let me get this straight.
The FAA says accident....
The CAF says incident.....
The FAA says substantial damage....
The CAF says minor damage........
Who do you believe???
Where's the photos?


The english language is a wonderful thing. Open to many interpretations.

The FAA says accident = you say tomato
The CAF says incident = I say toe mah toe

The FAA says substantial damage = it's broken and it don't fly no more.

The CAF says minor damage = it's broken and it don't fly no more, BUT we can fix it without selling our first born and the pilots ok.

End result: Their both right.

Please forgive me for injecting a bit of levity into the disscussion. Now where's the photos?

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Hi

Just to remind you all of the P39 interest society here of the work being undertaken at Wangarrata, Victoria , Australia by Murray Griffiths team to restore 4-5 P39s to fly and one static example. A few of these are for US collectors

Some photos here.............

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/e ... =250739887

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DaveM2 wrote:
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:


Hmm, I read the top line as zero fatalities and the next line as 1 fatality. What am I missing here?

I assume the zero is right as everyone seems so jubilant.

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