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FAA accident data for February 17 describes N6222N a CM 170 Magister Fouga jet veered off the runway on take off and was substantially damaged at Imperial, CA. FAA registration shows registered to San Diego Flight Museum. No injuries were noted.

Anyone got pictures of the damage? I think it's an ex-French AF Fouga.

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A bit of video of the aftermath. Not too bad, but bad enough I'm sure. News report, it's a Turbo Powered aircraft!!! Idiots!
http://www.ivpressonline.com/articles/2 ... news08.txt
click the video icon

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That's a write-off I'm afraid
Gears ripped out, wings damaged, underside,.. Good for engine and spares recovery.

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Guess that falls into the "Good Landing" category of being able to walk away from it. But with the gear ripped out of her guts, I imagine that is a lot of hidden structural trouble.

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If it was just a gear up landing, the underside could be repaired. Offcourse this can also be repaired, but given the value of a Fouga its not economically viable IMHO. It is however worth something as a parts plane. Especially the engines. Be interesting to know the cause of the accident. Glad the pilots walked away.

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http://video.ap.org/?f=CAELI&pid=Vsz3T0 ... bwchJxyOxD

cheaper to just buy another one and use that wreck for parts.

The Fouga jet mentioned above rotated prematurely resulting in a nose high angle of attack insufficient for sustained flight. The aircraft teetered back and forth before eventually stalling to the left and impacting with the runway.

He got lucky then!

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There are some spare Fougas at Chino if anyone needs some.

The Fouga is very tough. It has a glider like skid running down the fuselage and a tiny tailwheel at the back. I wouldn't be surprised if this one gets totaled for insurance purposes and ends up being a flyer again for someone else.
I saw the Fouga crash at Oshkosh on short final to 18. It was right in front of the warbird area and the guy was trying to keep separation from a vintage Bonanza and he skidded left rudder into a stall/spin. It only did about a 1/4th revolution before hitting the ground really hard. Both occupants walked away and "the scuttlebutt" in the warbird area was that it was rebuildable.
Funny thing about jets; they like fast air over the wings!

Fouga's are though, but can you tell me where that "skid" is located? Haven't notice that in the past Judging from the other damage, I think the underside will be VERY damaged! Skins torn, frames bend,... Maybe if it made just a gear-up landing, the underside could be fixed, but now with the gear ripped out, both wings damaged,... I'm afraid its totaled
Do you have any pictures of the Oshkosh crash? Haven't heard about that one.

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This was N302FM back in 1990. I was for the first time at Oshkosh and see the crash but have no pictures of that.

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When people will understand that you need to perform good maintenance on thoses aircrafts with people having knowledge , references and not pencil whiping the logs , everything will be fine .
A prebuyer inspection with a test flight will tell everything about the aircraft.
No test flight, walk away and run . The seller does not want you to see the discrepencies on the aircraft.
Maintaining an aircraft cost money . If it is too expensive so : Do not buy it.
It is like if you have a formula 1 racing car and send it to Jiffy lube to have it maintained.

It's on barnstormers now:
http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_ ... vage+.html

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