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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:34 pm 
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Well I have calmed down now and feeling better so here is my story. Since a fellow WIX'er broke the news that a article on the N3N was in the current AirClassics, every day for the last 2 weeks I have been visiting or calling my local barnes & noble for the new issue. Well today they finally got it. They pulled a issue behind the counter for me and I haul'd my butt over there. Once there, I waited in line for 15 min as we are in full X-mas shopping mode. FINALLY my turn and I told them my name and they were holding a magazine for me, she retuned and put it on the counter and I screamed like a school girl when I had seen the N3N on THE COVER!!!!!!! I was oblivious to the 7.99 ISSUE price as I was too excited to see more!!! I got it out to the truck and started thumbing through it like a 10 yr old with his first playboy........AHHH the BELOVED CENTERFOLD!!!! After 2 min of glory, I turned to the article and started to read.

As fast as my excitement climbed it came crashing down as I read the "history" of my favorite airplane.
"The navy wanted to create a rugged, easy to maintain plane and the fuselage was designed with a bolted steel tube construction with large removeable side panels that would make maintenance and inspection very easy. Also flying surfaces were all metal and the entire aircraft was fabric covered" BOLTED STEEL TUBE CONSTRUCTION????????? WTF?????? Where did this come from. Every N I have ever heard built was RIVETED with EXTRUDED ALUMINUM!!! The article later posts about the markings of the N3N, that all were delivered overall yellow (except for USCG examples)
Well here ON WIX, its already been stated that no N3N's ever were Silver. They were still YELLOW!!!!! The historians in the USCG will tell you that. Then at the end of the article, they talked about the R985 engine in a T-6???? WTF!!!! My sorrow went back to the $7.99 issue price on what I paid for this crap!!!!!
I find it great that a sweet N3N is back in the air because of the Sanders family. I watched for the updates as it came together but dam. Another article that did not live up to the justice of a little unknown airplane.
This is why I LOVE WIX and I dont need to subscribe to ANY magazines for my WARBIRD FIX!!!!! So after the 1st of the year and my bank account is headed back in a Positive direction, I WILL HIT THE WIX TIP JAR!!!!!! as far as I am concerned.......MONEY WELL SPENT!!!!! Thanks all who keep it going, interesting, CORRECT and FUN!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:41 pm 
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Good going Jeff! You have a big heart. 8) Such an easy going guy on wix I always enjoy reading your posts! But, I will have to admit pointing to an N3N and telling my dad, "hey look at the stearman" when I was alittle kid at airshows. :oops: I always wondered why that stearman had bigger wheels then the others at the show! :lol: :lol: :butthead: :axe: :finga: :mrgreen: :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:44 pm 
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Nathan wrote:
Good going Jeff! You have a big heart. 8) Such an easy going guy on wix I always enjoy reading your posts! But, I will have to admit pointing to an N3N and telling my dad, "hey look at the stearman" when I was alittle kid at airshows. :oops: I always wondered why that stearman had bigger wheels then the others at the show! :lol: :lol: :butthead: :axe: :finga: :mrgreen: :wink:


lol..........But you know better now...........just do me a favor and pass on the truith to your little girl!!:)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:19 pm 
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Who else really misses AIRPOWER and WINGS now?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:00 am 
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The Inspector wrote:
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The BEST! At lest, I anjoyed them very much. Loved a lot of the old color pictures they would find.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:33 am 
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Wings was a good one, we have the one when the N3N was on the cover.:) I do like FLYPAST. They really like to put out a good magazine. Oh well maybe some day I will get off my butt and write a good article about the N.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:23 am 
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Didn't someone, who should know about such things, proof read the article? After all this IS a magazine about aircraft ain't it.
(Rhetorical question. Almost nobody seems to proof read anymore and them that do usually only look for spelling and grammar errors. :( )

Mudge the p r= o..o#f reader :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:26 am 
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The Inspector wrote:
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ME! Those were great magazines.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:29 am 
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N3Njeff wrote:
Wings was a good one, we have the one when the N3N was on the cover.:) I do like FLYPAST. They really like to put out a good magazine. Oh well maybe some day I will get off my butt and write a good article about the N.


Then I'll have to write a rebuttal in defense of the Stearman...

Jeff - I think I have a copy of Wings or Airpower with a formation of N's on the cover. Sound familiar?

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Honestly, I just read the British mags anymore...they seem to have a better handle on their facts....not PERFECT, but....and a friend of mine just announced he's launching a Classic Jets magazine over there that we should be seeing on our Magazine racks here fairly soon.

My fascination with Air Classics ended in about 1992 when I sent in some info on Bob Converse making a speed run in Huntress III from Denver to C Springs and back and breaking his own mother's speed record...I clipped it out of the paper and sent it in and they ran it....with no record of the source or anything, and it was never returned to me. I have heard tell of similar stories from other individuals who had the same thing happen. Thank god it was'nt some rare private photo I snet in, I'd still be chasing it down.

Hey O'Leary...ya reading this?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:04 pm 
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Dan Jones wrote:
N3Njeff wrote:
Wings was a good one, we have the one when the N3N was on the cover.:) I do like FLYPAST. They really like to put out a good magazine. Oh well maybe some day I will get off my butt and write a good article about the N.


Then I'll have to write a rebuttal in defense of the Stearman...

Jeff - I think I have a copy of Wings or Airpower with a formation of N's on the cover. Sound familiar?

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I think it was AIRPOWER, yep a formation of N's over the Naval yard. Probably taken in 41. Wish I could find a orig of that pic!!! It was great that it was in color!!

Oh I would not bash the N2S.........believe it or not, I really dont have any true hate towards em. Its pretty much been the norm that once a "GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT" is made. Eventually the cheap knock offs will follow :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:05 pm 
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Honestly, I just read the British mags anymore...they seem to have a better handle on their facts....not PERFECT, but....and a friend of mine just announced he's launching a Classic Jets magazine over there that we should be seeing on our Magazine racks here fairly soon.

My fascination with Air Classics ended in about 1992 when I sent in some info on Bob Converse making a speed run in Huntress III from Denver to C Springs and back and breaking his own mother's speed record...I clipped it out of the paper and sent it in and they ran it....with no record of the source or anything, and it was never returned to me. I have heard tell of similar stories from other individuals who had the same thing happen. Thank god it was'nt some rare private photo I snet in, I'd still be chasing it down.

Hey O'Leary...ya reading this?

Mark


Mark I think that is a long line your in as I have heard the same situation from other people before.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:40 pm 
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I think an article is in order! I'd love to read something on the N3N with some great pictures included.

I do miss having a subscription to Warbird Digest. I learned a lot about aircraft I would not normally read about or look up history on.

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I think an article is in order! I'd love to read something on the N3N with some great pictures included.

I do miss having a subscription to Warbird Digest. I learned a lot about aircraft I would not normally read about or look up history on.

Tim

Agree on the Warbird Digest. But hey, I think WIX is pretty cool. Too bad WIX cant be on the news stand like 4 times a year. I think it would promote the Warbird scene pretty dam well.

But hey, I am just happy that I can sit on my laptop with it snowing outside......stoke up the pellet stove and read about whos doing what to some warbird half way across the world.

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Correct English language is deteriorating fast. I see all sorts of mistakes in the media and periodicals. "Air Classics" not exempt. The health product commercials on the radio sound like the were produced by third graders.
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