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Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:25 pm
When I was a kid about an epoch or two ago, there were no Bf109s flying (supposedly--according to my elders) because there were no serviceable DB motors. Hence Buchons were as close to German Bf109s as it got.
So where are all the Daimler-Benz motors now coming from? Are they new builds, or maybe museum bird engines that were restored to flying condition, or what?
Thanks in advance...
--Tom
Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:12 pm
You would be amazed @ what's stashed in barns, basements, and sheds in Europe
Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:40 am
I remember reading somewhere of a now airworthy DB605 that was found bricked up into a wall in an Italian factory...
Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:03 am
what's a "motor"......
I've looked in all my flight manuals and can't find one!
Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:07 am
Invader26 wrote:what's a "motor"......
I've looked in all my flight manuals and can't find one!
It's electric!

Then again, the Fatherland did call it flugmotor.
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mike furline on Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:11 am
now I get it, another of Hitler's "secret" weapons.....the electric Bf-109....so silent you could not hear it coming [and of course subject to a tax break....]
The "Green Army" as opposed to the "Red Army" loved it...
Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:41 pm
You semantics guys are something else.
Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:01 pm
The technology to be able to manufacture and repair parts for engines that would have been considered write-off's has made a huge difference in what is now a cost effective. The other side of same coin is that as the value of the aircraft goes up, the price to make that previously unreasonable componant now seems reasonable.
eg: A crankshaft for your P-51 cost 50,000. A large percentage of aircrafts value when the aircraft was only worth 200,000.00, but seems economical when same 50,000 crank is all that is keeping you from flying a mustang now worth 1.5 mil.
Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:27 pm
The technology to be able to manufacture and repair parts for engines that would have been considered write-off's has made a huge difference in what is now a cost effective. The other side of same coin is that as the value of the aircraft goes up, the price to make that previously unreasonable componant now seems reasonable.
I recall reading similar info in comments from Mike Nixon and other engine builders. Approved welding techniques and other repair methods are making previously unrepairable engines salvageable.
There are also individual efforts to reproduce needed parts to support the rebuild of the rare German engines that are being restored now.
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