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Robbie Stuart wrote:USFG PHOTO
A Vought XF4U-3 Corsair in 1946.
Official Vought description of the XF4U-3: "In 1944 Vought converted 3 F4Us as test beds to test R-2800-18W and –16 engines equipped with high altitude turbo-superchargers. The R-2800-8 engine used in the basic Corsair had a two stage supercharger system. The objective of the proposed change to the turbo-supercharger system was to obtain greater speeds for the Corsair at higher altitudes. During evaluation tests in 1944, the turbo system proved to be faulty and cumbersome and though there was a measurable increase in speed in the 30,000 foot region the project was cancelled. Goodyear was to have built these high altitude turbo-supercharged aircraft as FG-3s. All three test aircraft were returned to the F4U-1 configuration. One of the XF4U-3 aircraft used to test the R-2800-16 engine is sometimes referred to as the XF4U-3B."
Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:04 pm
Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:38 am
Rajay wrote:Robbie Stuart wrote:USFG PHOTO
A Vought XF4U-3 Corsair in 1946.
Official Vought description of the XF4U-3: "In 1944 Vought converted 3 F4Us as test beds to test R-2800-18W and –16 engines equipped with high altitude turbo-superchargers. The R-2800-8 engine used in the basic Corsair had a two stage supercharger system. The objective of the proposed change to the turbo-supercharger system was to obtain greater speeds for the Corsair at higher altitudes. During evaluation tests in 1944, the turbo system proved to be faulty and cumbersome and though there was a measurable increase in speed in the 30,000 foot region the project was cancelled. Goodyear was to have built these high altitude turbo-supercharged aircraft as FG-3s. All three test aircraft were returned to the F4U-1 configuration. One of the XF4U-3 aircraft used to test the R-2800-16 engine is sometimes referred to as the XF4U-3B."
If the first fighter design built by Goodyear was the FG-1 and the second, the Super Corsair, was the F2G series (both F2G-1 and F2G-2), then wouldn't a third major type variant of a Goodyear Corsair have been a F3G instead of a FG-3? Just because it was apparently based on a Vought XF4U-3 prototype does not mean that the same -3 designation would translate to one built by Goodyear. That is why the Vought F4U design was a F2A when built by Brewster and a FG-1 when built by Goodyear.
Based on the US Navy designation system in use at the time, a FG-3 would be just another subtype version of the original Goodyear FG-1 version of the Corsair. The "FG" designation is the first fighter "design" built by Goodyear and in essence would be the same thing as a F1G but the use that "1" was considered redundant. Similarly, it is not the "-1" part of FG-1 that indicates that it was the first fighter design by Goodyear; that is also a subtype variation designation.
I guess it boils down to whether or not the high-altitude supercharged variant was considered a major type change (like the "bubble top" R-4360 powered F2G series Super Corsairs) or a minor sub-variant, like the differences between the various Vought-built F4U-1, -3, -5 (etc.) Corsairs.
I'm not saying anyone is absolutely wrong or right here; I'm just saying that one little bit of particular info above doesn't seem to correspond with the official USN designation system of that time as I understand it and I'm asking about alternative possiblities.
Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:53 am