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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:11 pm 
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Any idea on the codes on this F4U? I figure I need a place to start if I'm ever going to put a name to this guy in the old photo. I imagine it must be a training command code, but I don't recognize it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:20 pm 
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Doing some digging and now I'm wondering if this photo was taken right at the end of the war or just after.

And would the code 92-BF-11 make sense for a CVG-92 Corsair numbered 11


I came across a photo of a -4 Corsair from CVG 82 on the Randolph coded 82-F-20 that looks similar


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:28 pm 
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I am no corsair expert in anyway and i'm always learning new things here on wix all the time. The code on the plane is possibly from VF-92 or a VMF and the plane number is 11 from that squadron,( if i'm somewhat correct.) Probably from 1946 and taken during the winter time. Personally, i think this photo was taken state side. Just looking at the pilot you can see he's all dressed up. I'm thinking USMC squadron. Even could be from the occupation force in Japan. There are so many other wixers here that will give you better information but I hope i helped a little

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:48 pm 
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And would the code 92-BF-11 make sense for a CVG-92 Corsair numbered 11.
I came across a photo of a -4 Corsair from CVG 82 on the Randolph coded 82-F-20 that looks similar


With the CVG-82 photo as reference, I'd think Dan's assessment is your best bet.

Also found this at: http://www.historykb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/world-war-ii/3309/Navy-Squadron-Question

Ties in with some of possibilities posted here so far.

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Dave Carter - 24 Aug 2007 06:30 GMT

Hi Guys/Gals,

My father was attached to VBF-92 (flying F4U-1Ds) during the summer/fall
of 1945, based on Saipan awaiting the invasion of the Japanese home islands.

If anyone point me to a source of information regarding this squadron,
especially regarding aircraft markings, I'd be eternally grateful.

I have one photo showing my father, at the starboard wing root of a
F4U-1D just returning from CAP, holding up a copy of Stars and Stripes
with the headline "Japanese QUIT!"

From the photo, it appears that the vertical tail surfaces of the
aircraft was painted white, but, so far, I've been unable to verify
this. I know the rest of the aircraft was painted glossy sea blue, as
was the standard in the summer of 1945.

Like I said, any help will be greatly appreciated!

TIA,
Dave


The markings look like Stateside training markings to me, and that certainly jibes with VBF-92's activities near the end of the war.

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CVG-92 follows the typical progression of an air group working up for
deployment to the Pacific. The air group shows up in the aircraft
location reports for the first time on 14 November 1944, scheduled for
establishment on 1 December 1944, with VF-92 at Atlantic City NAS,
VB-92 at Wildwood NAS, and VT-92 at Martha's Vineyard (South Weymouth)
NAS. No aircraft are noted as being yet assigned. The air group is
scheduled for assignment to USS Boxer, located at Newport News.

On 5 December, the squadrons are located in the same places, except
now VF-92 has 25 F6F-3, VB-92 has 24 SB2C-1, and VT-92 has 10 TBM-1C.
Boxer is still at Newport News.

On 12 December, locations unchanged, VF-92 has 45 F6F-3, VB-92 has 4
SB2C-1 and 20 SB2C-3, and VT-92 has 6 TBM-1C and 5 TBF-1C.

On 19 December, locations unchanged, VF-92 has 49 F6F-3 and 1 F6F-5,
VB-92 has 6 SB2C-1C and 18 SB2C-3, and VT-92 has 7 TBM-1C and 8
TBF-1C.

There are no changes in the 27 December report.

On 2 January 1945 report there are no changes for VF-92, VB-92, and
VT-92. Noted as to being established as of 2 January at Atlantic City
is VBF-92. No aircraft assigned, yet.

No changes for VF-92, VBF-92, or VB-92 on the 9 January report; VT-92
shows 7 TBF-1C and 7 TBM-1.

On 16 January, no location change, VF-92 has 20 F6F-3 and 12 F6F-5 and
VBF-92 now has 12 F6F-3. VB-92 shows 15 SB2C-3, while VT-92 reports 9
TBF-1C and 8 TBM-1C.

On 23 January, no location changes, VF-92 is unchanged and VBF-92 has
18 F6F-3. VB-92 is unchanged and VT-92 reports 9 TBF-1C and 6
TBM-1C.

On 30 January, no location changes, VF-92 is unchanged, but VBF-92 now
has 18 F6F-3, 1 F4U-1 and 3 F4U-1D. VB-92 is unchanged, but while
VT-92's numbers remain the same, the squadron has moved to the warmer
climes of Boca Chica NAS. These are the first F4Us assigned to
VBF-92. Boxer still at Newport News. The air group is scheduled to
be ready for deployment on 1 July 1945.

6 February - VF-92 strength remains unchanged, VBF-92 reports 1 F3A-1,
2 FG-1A, 6 F4U-1, and 7 F4U-1D. VB-92 reports 14 SB2C-3. All three
of these squadrons have moved to Groton NAS. VT-92, strength
unchanged is still enjoying the sunshine at Boca Chica. The squadron
ready for deployment date has moved up to 1 May 1945 and is no longer
scheduled for deployment on Boxer. No other carrier noted.

13 February - The entire air group is together at Groton. VF-92
strength is 19 F6F-3, 17 F6F-5, and 2 F6F-5P; VBF-92 keeps growing
with 5 F3A-1, 3 FG-1A, 4 F4U-1, and 15 F4U-1D; VB-92 has 5 SB2C-3, 3
SB2C-4, and 4 SB2C-4E; VT-92 strength is unchanged.

20 February - Everyone still at Groton. VF-92 strength is unchanged;
VBF-92 now reports 5 F3A-1, 3 FG-1A, 4 F4U-1, and 21 F4U-1D; VB-92 has
5 SB2C-3, 6 SB2C-4, and 4 SB2C-4E; VT-92 strength is unchanged.

24 February - Groton; squadron strengths are unchanged.

10 March - Groton. VF-92 has 29 F6F-5, 2 F6F-5P, and 1 F6F-5E; VBF-92
now with 15 F4U-1D and 19 FG-1D; VB-92 has 15 SB2C-4E; and VT-92 shows
4 TBF-1C, 5 TBM-1C, and 4 TBM-3.

17 March - Groton. VF-92 no change; VBF-92 now with 11 F4U-1D and 11
FG-1D; VB-92 no change; and VT-92 has 3 TBM-1C, and 12 TBM-3.

24 March - Training is apparently picking up. Squadron is still based
at Groton, but detachments are also operating out of the Squantum NAS
satellite, Ayer Field NAAF. VF-92 has 28 F6F-5, 2 F6F-5P, and 1
F6F-5E - 17 of the F6F-5 are at Ayer; VBF-92 has 13 F4U-1D and 11
FG-1D - 5 F4U-1D and 7 FG-1D are at Ayer; 8 of the 15 VB-92 SB2C-4E
are at Ayer; VT-92, strength unchanged, has 8 TBM operating out of
Ayer.

31 March - VF-92 strength unchanged - 18 of the F6F-5 are at Ayer;
VBF-92 has 17 F4U-1D, 6 F4U-1 and 10 FG-1D - 7 F4U-1D and 5 FG-1D are
at Ayer; VB-92 strength unchanged - 8 SB2C-4E are at Ayer; VT-92,
strength unchanged - 8 TBM operating out of Ayer.

7 April - The entire air group is together again at Groton. VF-92 has
28 F6F-5, 2 F6F-5P, and 2 F6F-5E; VBF-92 has 1 FG-1, 10 FG-1D, 6
F4U-1, and 18 F4U-1D; VB-92 strength unchanged; VT-92 has 2 TBM-1C, 11
TBM-3, 2 TBM-3E

14 April - Air group location and strength unchanged

21 April - Groton. VF-92, VBF-92, VB-92 unchanged. VT-92 has 2
TBM-1C, 1 TBM-3, 12 TBM-3E

5 May - CVG-92 squadrons at Alameda NAS, aircraft complements not
noted.

19 May - No change from 5 May.

26 May - CVG-92 squadrons at Kahului NAS, aircraft complements not
noted.

16 June - Kahului. VF-92 has 37 F6F-5; VBF-92 has 21 FG-1, 2 FG-1D, 6
F4U-1, 9 F4U-1D; VB-92 has 1 SB2C-3, 8 SB2C-4, 6 SB2C-4E; VT-92 has 15
TBM-3.

23 June - Kahului. VF-92 has 36 F6F-5; VBF-92 has 16 FG-1, 2 FG-1D,
11 F4U-1, 11 F4U-1D; VB-92 has 2 SB2C-3, 8 SB2C-4, 5 SB2C-4E; VT-92
has 16 TBM-3.

30 June - Kahului. VF-92 has 40 F6F-5; VBF-92 has 18 FG-1, 2 FG-1D, 8
F4U-1, 12 F4U-1D; VB-92 has 1 SB2C-4, 6 SB2C-4E; VT-92 has 18 TBM-3.

7 July - Kahului. VF-92 has 41 F6F-5; VBF-92 has 11 FG-1, 2 FG-1D, 7
F4U-1, 12 F4U-1D, 8 F4U-4; VB-92 has 11 SB2C-4, 6 SB2C-4E; VT-92 has
13 TBM-3.

21 July - CVG-92 enroute to Saipan. VF-92 enroute; VBF-92 arrived
Saipan; VB-92 arrived Saipan, VT-92 enroute. No aircraft complements
noted.

28 July - CVG-92 squadrons at Saipan. No aircraft complements noted.

4 August - CVG-92 squadrons at Saipan. No aircraft complements noted.

7 September 1945 - Saipan. VF-92 has 36 F6F-5, 1 F6F-5P; VBF-92 has 6
FG-1D, 1 F4U-1C, 7 F4U-1D, 8 F4U-4; VB-92 has 13 SB2C-4, 2 SB2C-4E;
VT-92 has 12 TBM-3, 1 TBM-3P, 4 TBM-3E.

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I just also put together that the F4U-1D center fuselage section displayed at the MAPS museum was assigned to VBF-92 in February 1945. Very, very slim chance but...could be, I guess? :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:50 pm 
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Thanks gents. Any thoughts on whether it's a -4 or a 1D? I'm not enough of a Corsair guy to be able to tell from what I can see.

I saw that same thread too Rob. The photo I found was in "Carrier Air War in Original Color".

It's s start I guess :)

Sure would be fun to put a name to the pilot.


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The cowl flap configuration is that of a -1D variant.

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Rob Mears wrote:
I just also put together that the F4U-1D center fuselage section displayed at the MAPS museum was assigned to VBF-92 in February 1945. Very, very slim chance but...could be, I guess? :D


Thanks again Rob. Wouldn't that be something :)


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ahhhh, so i wasn't too far off! 3 blade prop f4u-1d, especially towards the end of the war.

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Could it have looked like this...............................?
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F4U-1D #5 VBF-94 USS Lexington 1945

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Jack Cook wrote:
Could it have looked like this...............................?
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F4U-1D #5 VBF-94 USS Lexington 1945


That's what I'm thinking Jack.

In very light gray on the back of the image was printed USNAAF Groton, Conn, so that guess turned out to be right. I'd missed it initially as it as written so lightly. I blew up the photo to see the collar rank too. He's either a Commander or Lt. Commander. I can't tell if it's silver or gold. But I assume that means it's probably the CO of VBF-92

Now to figure out who that was :)


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Two found in an old book on the shelf. VBF-94 crashes. Markings seem to be the same

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Best guess on my pilot is the CO of VBF-92 Lt. Commander George C. Simmons of Morganton, North Carolina.

Came across a privately printed book by a former VBF pilot called "Out of the Land of Nod-A Story of Yesterday" by T.E.Altgilbers. All kinds of info and rosters of all the CVG 92 squadrons in it.


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Thier Squadrons emblem was of a Vulture sitting holding an aerial rocket in it's claws and wearing aviators wings , all with flames in background on round disc with thin border .
I have a color iamge of this emblem .
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