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Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:35 pm
What is the, I guess, Bottle opener sticking out of the side window behind the co pilots cockpit clearview?
Once again, the B-24 proves, 'if it's weird or uncommon, you'll see one on a B-24 at some point'
And I'm far, far from close to being offended by the historic artwork.
Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:12 pm
Cool photo!
Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:17 pm
"Good news, Miss Phipps - no new cavities!"
Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:35 pm
Does anyone have any idea who the artist was in the picture?
Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:56 pm
carlisle1926 wrote:Does anyone have any idea who the artist was in the picture?
I think it is the guy in the photo!
just could not pass that one up!
Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:27 pm
Looks like HAL OLSEN
Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:02 pm
Thanks for the info on the artist.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:20 am
Credit should probably really be given to Gil Elvgren, the artist who originally painted the pin-up, "Sleepy Time Gal", which afterwards inspired nose art for countless WW2 aircraft.
I think the only other piece of art that has been copied as frequently is Frazetta's "Death Dealer", which adorns a whole bunch of modern aircraft noses and ladder doors (and a Molly Hatchet album cover, from which it derived its popularity).
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:28 am
Thanks for posting these. The Navy nose art, as it was much less frequent, doesn't get enough credit in my book.
And as noted above, there are a series of credits due, starting at the original artists (Elvgren, Vargas, etc.), then the guys who actually painted them in the field. I think the original artists are pretty well known (especially in the art community). Just try and buy an original Vargas or Elvgren today and see what I mean!
But the guys who adapted (or flat out copied) this art in the field should be recognized as well. Nose art, as a form of popular (or "folk") art, has a significant place in our history. Thanks again for posting.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:43 pm
This particular PB4Y-1 was operated by VB-109. I would say that a majority of PB4Ys in the Pacific were adorned with some type of art.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:55 pm
fritzthefox wrote:Credit should probably really be given to Gil Elvgren, the artist who originally painted the pin-up, "Sleepy Time Gal", which afterwards inspired nose art for countless WW2 aircraft.
Sorry Fritz, but that is incorrect. The original artist was Alberto Vargas and this particular example appeared as a gatefold in the April '44 Esquire Magazine. The title was "Patriotic Gal", not Sleepy Time Gal, which was another popular pose, from the Sept '45 Esquire. I have both framed and hanging in my hallway with a few other Varga gatefolds.
Thanks John for the info and additional photos!
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:31 am
the artist has an uncanny resemblance to actor tom hanks!!
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:43 am
The Inspector wrote:What is the, I guess, Bottle opener sticking out of the side window behind the co pilots cockpit clearview?
Once again, the B-24 proves, 'if it's weird or uncommon, you'll see one on a B-24 at some point'
The bottle opener is a drift sight used by the navigator to determine wind drift by tracking objects on the ground. The angled portion sticking out of the window is a mirror. Here is a photo of the part on the inside mooched from
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