ME 109 at Thunder??

Ontario-Warbird · **Joined:** Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:56 pm **Posts:** 407

Was reading throgh the posts this morning and saw that their will be a ME 109 at Thunder over Michigan? Was looking at their web-site and dont see it mentioned in the list of aircraft at the show. Just wondering what one it will be ( Mr. Russell's? ) If someone can confirm this i would be most appreciative, I am making plans to attend, and would love to get some good photo's of a Me109

Thanks Dave C

kevin walsh · **Posted:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:16 am

Ontario-Warbird wrote:

Was reading throgh the posts this morning and saw that their will be a ME 109 at Thunder over Michigan? Was looking at their web-site and dont see it mentioned in the list of aircraft at the show. Just wondering what one it will be ( Mr. Russell's? ) If someone can confirm this i would be most appreciative, I am making plans to attend, and would love to get some good photo's of a Me109

Thanks Dave C

I spoke with the Russell Group yesterday and the ME 109 looks very good for Thunder Over Michigan.
There was some question of pilot availability but they seem to have that issue resolved.
By the way, they are a great group to work with and are very enthusiastic about coming.
Our web site should be updated shortly to reflect the 109 in the line-up.
Blue skies....
Kevin Walsh
Aviation Events Director
Yankee Air Museum

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:13 pm

will it be a real 109, or a spanish version??

Al Moore · **Posted:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:38 pm

Tom,

This is the aircraft that is scheduled to attend Thunder Over Michigan. A Bf-109E based in Ontario, Canada.

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:49 pm

The Real thing Tom! I hope it shows up.

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:54 pm

oh man, that's exciting!!! the real thing!!!! will it be flying?? i've seen the spanish version countless times zzzzzzzzzzzzz snore snort :angry:

never saw a real 109 airborne.

Ontario-Warbird · **Joined:** Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:56 pm **Posts:** 407

Saw this 109 fly back at Mr. Russell's air show with Walter Eichhorn at the controls. The sound of the DB601 is just incrediable, when it dives in the whisle of the supercharger is very noticable.

Their is a few video clips of that show on my site if interested.

http://www.ontario-warbirds.ca/video.htm

Dave C

Oscar Duck · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:18 pm

Ed's 109E is nothing short of fantastic however I'm over the 'negative' comments on Buchons. Are we trying to say that any 'licenced built' aircraft is 'not original'? My TBM was built by GM not Grumman - Mustangs built in Australia are not "real" Mustangs???? B-24's built by Ford are not "real" B-24's??? Sabres built in Canada and Australia are not "real Sabres"??? Get real chaps and enjoy the moments brought to you by some dedicated and hard working owners who are also "enthusiasts"...

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:27 pm

ontario warbird.....wow excellent film footage!!! i viewed most of it. i'd swear you were right up their with em all, & you have a steady hand with the camera too!!! no coffee that day?? :wink:

some amature aerial film footage is enough to make you :rolleyes:

1st class work & website!! i strongly recommend the other wix boys & girls to check it out. best, tom

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:39 pm

oscar duck... no such statement... the spanish 109, has markedly different characteristics lines wise from the power plant perspective. the spanish version is historically significant too, but saw no action in ww 2, i think a few made it to israel after the war, along with some real 109's (the irony of it all!!) your bird i would guess is line wise the same as the status quo, & certainly no less historically significant, just built under licence by a subcontractor. the avia version of the 109 has different lines & different charm from the real mcCoy. didn't mean to step on your toes. best, tom

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:25 pm

Correct,the Ha1112 is significant in it's own right, but not to WW2. 109s were built by several contracters, not just Messerschmitt. Erla built them as did Wiener -Neustadt in Austria, but they were all built in wartime for the Luftwaffe and its allies.
The Buchon was built postwar in Spain for the Spanish AF and wouldn't it be nice to see one flying in the blue scheme they occasionally wore..instead of another 'Luftwaffe look alike'

Dave

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:54 pm

point made, i agree, thanks!!

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:25 pm

Thunder A/C list has been updated with the 109 and a few other a/c

michael luther · **Posted:** Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:52 pm

As it looks now the 109 will fly twice each day. Once in the morning battle with the four Thunderbolts, and again in the afternoon battle followed by a few passes for the crowd, maybe in formation with the thunderbolts.

mrhenniger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:53 pm

michael luther wrote:

As it looks now the 109 will fly twice each day. Once in the morning battle with the four Thunderbolts, and again in the afternoon battle followed by a few passes for the crowd, maybe in formation with the thunderbolts.

Who is doing the flying? I really enjoyed the display at Niagra!

Mike

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