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Howdy all

Have a look at Jerry Yagen's new Aussie CAC Mk.30 Sabre, underway at Avspecs in New Zealand

www.warbirdrestoration.co.nz/current.html#f86

"What a beauti"

Keep em flying

Lightning

Is this the F-86 that was outside the hangar in Dairyflats on the North Island (1993?) in Phillippine AF Colors??

Cheers,

Lynn

Howdy

No, This is an Australian Sabre RAAF No. A94-922
This was obtained in Queensland, Australia

I cant remember the last owner's name, but I think he was involved with the importing of the RSAF ex Hawker Hunter's into OZ

Keep em flying

Lightning

Hi Lynn,

The Phillipino F-86 that was at Dairy Flat is currently in storage after going through various owners. Sad storey that one, the Sabre that arrived in NZ was not the one that was inspected and paid for in the Phillipines. The one that arrived was basically a corrosion basket-case.
I will have more details on its current owner/whereabouts tomorrow if you would like.

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Lightning

Fellows name who owned the CAC Sabre was Mosker i think - this aircraft spent a few years at Australian Aviation in Brisbane awaiting restoration that never happened - Two Spits are also at the site.

The Sabre was supposed to have had a little corrosion in the rear lower fuse but otherwise was said to be "fine".

Kermit Weeks has 7 of these for sale in the US (Moh Ariz ?) if anybody is interested - remember they have a different Fuselage , 30 MM cannon and an Avon engine and are said to be the best version of the Sabre ever made.

Regards
John P

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Nice Job on the CAC Sabre.

Why would you go all the way to the states to buy one?

Surely there must be good examples here in Australia that are suitable for restoration to fly and probably for a good price too?

Digger

Lightning

Well most of the remaining Sabres here are not in the best of shape and the ones in the US "In Theory" were operational much later than ours , having been with the Malasians - or the Indonesians so haven't been inactive for as long - theory anyway- Depends on how they were stored and dismantled I suppose - leading edge tanks and spar corrosion are an issue on these.

Regards
John P

PS The Jerry Yeagan Mossie seems to be streaking along in the restoration shops

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Sunshine State Air Farce

Hi All,

I took the time to page through some of the new photo's of the Mosquito restoration, and a thought occured to me. Forgive me if this is perhaps a silly question, or one that has been answered in the past, but is this particular aircraft going to be made airworthy ?

Just wondering out loud...

Paul

Hi Paul

Not a silly question at all

Yes the aircraft will be airworthy.

Glyn Powell who lives near Auckland has built moulds and all the infrastructure to again construct mosquito airframes. He has done one preproduction static fuselage which is now in Canada and as you can see eight months after he finished the first the second (Airwirthy) one is well on the way. The moulds allow for the construction of any mark of Mossie.

Regards
John P

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Sunshine State Air Farce

The aircraft in question is indeed A94-922. It was purchased from Geoff Moseker in Queensland after plans to have it restored to airworthiness at Aviation Training Australia at Brisbane failed to materialise.
An interesting part in its history was when it was in use as a training aid for surface refinishers (painters) at RAAF Amberley. A crew of Royal Australian Navy trainees painted it in a striking blue and white RAN scheme similiar to that used on the Macchi trainers at the time. Needless to say the RAAF bosses were less than amused. After many, many paint shemes it was acquired in 1994 by Geoff who also owned A94-923.
A number of websites list these as being one and the same aircraft.
This is incorrect with A94 -923 currently on static display at the Kbely Aviation Museum outside of Prague, Czech Republic.
At least two other CAC Sabres are being restored to airwothiness A94-352 by Jeff Trappett and A94-909 by Temora Aviation Museum
More info at http://www.adf-serials.com/2a94.shtml
Some images, including those CAC Sabres currently in the USA at http://www.adf-serials.com/gallery/Sabre

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Hi Martin

There may be a slight change here in as much as the RAAF , former display aircraft has or is about to move to Temora for restoration to flight status and so I imagine -909 will probably be used as spares or the restoration slowed - I don't know but it wouldn't seem to make much sense to restore both especially as the RAAF one flew relatively recently and should be in good shape.

Regards
John P

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Hi John,
Indeed, that is why I said at least two!
I also believe Temora has acquired A94-942, 952 and 956 so who knows what will happen.
Did I here some-one say "economies of scale"???
By the way, if any one out there has any peformance, handling or pilots' notes for the CAC Sabre we would love to hear from you!
Cheers Martin

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I took this photo on Monday (Jan 9th)



.......and heres some I took about a couple of months ago.

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Wow, has it really been that long since I last visited?

I was just working out my Wanaka trip and I was wondering..............

Regards
John P

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Sunshine State Air Farce

I'm suprised nobody has commented on the wooden shape just visible under the tail in the first photo.

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