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 Post subject: A Bridge Too Far
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:07 am 
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It's on AMC right now and am really enjoying all the C-47 ,ahem, DC-3s and saw a few P-47s and a PR Spitfire. I couldn't imagine how much effort it took to accomplish the aerial sequences and to find enough DC-3s to play the C-47s.

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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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Lots of it was early CGI.

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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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The Inspector wrote:
Lots of it was early CGI.
No CGI back then, there were 11 real c-47s. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6005&start=15#p50145

No P-47s though; them was Dutch Harvards (t-6s) :o .


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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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They did use some models and green screen for the flying Horsa's being towed by the C-47's.
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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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WallyB wrote:
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Lots of it was early CGI.
No CGI back then, there were 11 real c-47s. http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... =15#p50145

No P-47s though; them was Dutch Harvards (t-6s) :o .


Realized that during a later seen showing a T-6 dropping bombs, thought at first it was a -47 but then realized it was a T-6.

Still some nice scenes to watch

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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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Weren't the T-6s supposed to by Typhoons and not Jugs?
I know they were dropping fire extinguishers with fins, I encountered someone who'd worked on the film the first time I was in Europe and he'd been an extra in the border crossing scenes (filmed at a Dutch army armor training area). My brother and I found the "Arnhem bridge" at Deventer and walked across it, even went up the very same steps that the flamethrower team did in that night scene. The Red Devil house was a parking lot (and was during the filming, too, they build the entire house to destory in the movie).
After the Battle magazine did a great Arnhem issue years ago and had an excellent article on the filming of the movie.

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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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After the Battle magazine did a great Arnhem issue years ago and had an excellent article on the filming of the movie.
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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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Very Cool.
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West German T-5's portrayed both Typhoons and P-47s, depending on the need and markings.
Spitfire MH434 was the photo-recce bird in the scene with the Dutch boy on the bike.
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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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Jerry O'Neill wrote:
West German T-5's portrayed both Typhoons and P-47s, depending on the need and markings.
Spitfire MH434 was the photo-recce bird in the scene with the Dutch boy on the bike.
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I'm assuming you meant T-6 (which in West Germany were CC&F-built Harvard 4's, not T-6's) but they were actually four Dutch Harvard Mk IIB's.
The Harvards used were PH-KLU, PH-BKT, B-64 and B-118 (the last two were loaned from the RNLAF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bridge_T ... %28film%29

Interestingly, PH-KLU is currently for sale in Belgium: http://www.planecheck.com?ent=da&id=19589

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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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The same Dutch Harvards in their nowadays coloursceme, still operational at Royal Netherlands Air Force Historical Flight (RNAFHF).


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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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Jerry O'Neill wrote:
West German T-5's portrayed both Typhoons and P-47s, depending on the need and markings.
Spitfire MH434 was the photo-recce bird in the scene with the Dutch boy on the bike.
Jerry

I'm assuming you meant T-6 (which in West Germany were CC&F-built Harvard 4's, not T-6's) but they were actually four Dutch Harvard Mk IIB's.
The Harvards used were PH-KLU, PH-BKT, B-64 and B-118 (the last two were loaned from the RNLAF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bridge_T ... %28film%29

Interestingly, PH-KLU is currently for sale in Belgium: http://www.planecheck.com?ent=da&id=19589

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Thanks for the correction.
I think I meant Dutch Harvard's but being American, and very colonial, they're all T-6's!!! :D
What are you using Wikipedia for? We teach our 7th graders that there is too much false info there so they can't use it for projects! :D
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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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Jerry O'Neill wrote:
Spitfire MH434 was the photo-recce bird in the scene with the Dutch boy on the bike.


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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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The Harvards also portrayed Fw.190s, although I'm not sure they were seen as such in the finished film. You can see the "P-47" versions clearly in the background of an airfield scene.

The "Typhoon" and "Fw.190" versions pop up again in the film Soldier of Orange, although the German-painted aircraft are seen during the invasion sequences near the start of the film! The "Typhoon" version is clearly seen at the end, as Rutger Hauer's character welcomes Queen Wilhelmina of Holland.

One of the Harvards would later crop up in the 2006 film Black Book, playing a Focke-Wulf 190 again!!

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 Post subject: Re: A Bridge Too Far
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...really enjoying all the C-47 ,ahem, DC-3s...

Not all those C-47s were DC-3s....at least one was 42-93096 which served its wartime career with IX Troop Carrier Command Pathfinder School/Group. Returned to ZI with 440th TCG.
She was PF plane 17 (2/508 PIR) on Normandy; Carried one 101st PF stick (2/506) into Holland on 17SEP44. Flew with the rest of Pathfinder Group on Bastogne resupply and also flew elements of 507 PIR in Operation VARSITY.

Now embalmed and hanging from the ceiling at the WW2 Museum in New Orleans.


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