Warbird Information Exchange

I found these Reservations listed in the Sept Issue Air Britain News

I have not seen them listed before, but I apologise if they have been mentioned already!

Does anyone know anything else?


Registration Reservations in the US 19 August 2005

6 Corsair (Goodyear FG1D)

92463 (N5018R) ex FAS-210 C/N 3724
92490 (N5016C) ex FAS-212 C/N 3750
92618 (N5015M) ex FAS-208 C/N 3879?
92642 (N50166) ex FAS-214 C/N 3903?
92643 (N5015T) ex FAS-? C/N 3904?
92644 (N50182) ex FAS-? C/N 3905?

All purchased as scrap/spares from El Savador Air Force

2 P-51D's

44-74960 (N50191) C/N 122-41500
44-84857 (N5019F) C/N 122-44713

Both purchased as scrap/spares from El Savador Air Force

And if you do not believe me, then check them up on landings!

Wow! This is big news! None of these aircraft are listed in the registry. My guess is that it looks like a major corsair re-production program is about to begin! I can't see any way that potentially airworthy projects could have arisen from such a collection of scrap parts out there without new-build spars either...

Anyone have any concrete details?

Cheers,
Richard

How could all the above mentiond aircraft have "no registered owner"?

some time ago there was something on the board about a company hired to clean up the junk around air strips in South America. Could these be part of that project??
Steve

Or perhaps the most expensive dataplates for a long time!!!!

T J

If its just a reserved reg # I don't think name and address is shown!

T J

I haven't heard anything regarding any airframes recently removed from El Salvador. I keep in touch with enthusiasts, researchers and friends there, and no mention has been made of any movement of airframes of Corsairs or Mustangs.

There was a conversation about four years ago though, with a gentleman from Minnessota, but I don't know if I can publish his name in relation to this issue.

During a conversation, he mentioned to me that he was going to El Salvador, to buy a lot of Corsair and Mustang spares, that they had been holding for a long time. Maybe -please read, MAYBE- this is the same owner?

For those who care to hazard a guess, he owns B-25s....


Saludos,


Tulio

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Why take the best part of life out of your life, when you can have life with the best part of your life in your life?

I am one of them 'futbol' people.

Will the previous owner has pics of this double cabin sample

GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press "1" for English.
Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English.

Sooooo, how am I going to know to press 1 or 2, if I do not speak English????

St Paul-Anoka County

Am I

Cold/War/Hot ??

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant that these airframes were not on the WIX registry... ie. previously unknown survivors.

However, that being said, the owners are not listed on the N-number registry either at present.

Cheers,
Richard

If one were only reserving an "N" number, why would there be a model and serial number associated with it? Seems odd to me! I mean who would the tax man chase after to get their part of the pie??????

The model and serial number would be required to get the reservation, surely. If there were no serial number, I am sure that would affect the classification/certification process once the aircraft was ready to fly. This is why "paperwork" warbirds can command such a high price.

Cheers,
Richard

Hmmmm,


a HOT thought at Anoka County huh ?? And here I thought that there was only one operation up there who was still in the Warbird biz..... Not forgetting the folks who fly the Mohawks of course....

VERY interesting batch of aquisitions here I'd say. All unknown survivors ? Looks like the Corsair population just got a major boost. Hope all of them eventually fly.

Paul

I got no problem with any of this!!

M

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Mark Morris

According to the information presented yesterday, the September issue of Air Britain News lists the following FG-1D Corsairs as “Registration Reservations in the US, 19 August 2005”:
92463 (N5018R) ex FAS-210 C/N 3724
92490 (N5016C) ex FAS-212 C/N 3750
92618 (N5015M) ex FAS-208 C/N 3879?
92642 (N50166) ex FAS-214 C/N 3903?
92643 (N5015T) ex FAS-? C/N 3904?
92644 (N50182) ex FAS-? C/N 3905?

I am afraid the following BuNo's may not correspond to any of the 20 Goodyear FG-1D Corsairs delivered to the Fuerza Aérea Salvadorena (FAS) by mid-1957: 92463, 92643, 92644.
At least they are not listed in Douglas Alcides Cornejo's book -FAS official historian- “Historia de la Fuerza Aérea Salvadorena”, ISBN 99923-0-076-0, or in Dan Hagedorn's book, “Central American and Caribbean Air Forces”.
My understanding is that all surviving FAS FG-1D Corsair airframes, spares, and scrap were disposed off in the 1980s and 1990s -most, if not all, went to the USA-.

I also find errors in the above FAS tail numbers/registrations, according to Cornejo's book:
FAS 210 assigned to 92494 (not 92463),
FAS 212 to 92590 (not 92490),
FAS 214 to 92623 (not 92642)
FAS 208 to 92489 (not 92618)

In my opinion, FAS registration numbers have always been somewhat controversial, perhaps due to duplication or else, and those listed in Cornejo's book may be open to dispute when compared with other sources or databases, i.e.: 92489 (c/n 3750) to El Salvador AF as FAS-209. Registered N209TW Nov 2002. In 1990 was reported stored by Frank Arrufat of Los Angeles, CA.
Cornejo's book shows FAS 209 was assigned to 92490.

But sure enough, the "N" numbers are found in the FAA Registry as detailed above.

Perhaps, Rob Mears (Corsair Historian) could shed some additional light to this very interesting subject.

Cheers,

Amado

Col. Rohr,

Yes, I understand the Salvadoran Corsairs were obtained at Litchfield Park NAS, under MAS arrangements from Mr. Bob Bean. Fact of the matter is, the 19 Honduran Corsairs were acquired from him as well.

I did forget to mention the following ex-FAS warbirds still remain in Salvadoran coastal waters:
A FAS FG-1D Corsair allegedly shot down by their own AAA on 15 July 1969 in the vicinity of La Union. The pilot managed to bail out, although badly burned. To date, the aircraft's registration has not been officially disclosed, and has not been salvaged. Depth is unknown.

Also, P-51D Mustang, FAS 412, which crashed near Acajutla on 23 September 1970, still remains under approximately 300 feet of water. Pilot was killed.

Saludos,

Amado