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Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7814

Some really good stuff here ... Source SDASM archives From the Paul Fedelchak Collection. Fedelchak was born in Brownsville PA, June 22, 1917, served as an aerial photographer in the USAAC from 1939. His duties included service at Chanute Field, Washington and Alaska where he was involved in the aerial surveys that made the Alcan Highway possible

Beech F-2 Alaska 1st PR Grp Alaska 1941

Boeing P-12B 29-446

Boeing 314 NX18601 near Seattle 24Jan38

Boeing Y1B-17 Mt Ranier 28Feb38

Boeing Y1B-17 with Boeing 314 Seattle 11-24-38

Boeing P-26 20th Pursuit Group

Grumman OA-9

Curtiss P-6E 17th Pursuit Squadron

Fokker C-2A 28-125 and 28-123

Douglas B-18 19th Bomb Group

Martin B-10 formation, San Fransisco 4Apr36

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7814

Part 2

Boeing Y1B-17 Mt Ranier 28Feb38

Boeing Y1B-17 New York City 1939

Douglas O-46 15Sep38

USS Macon San Francisco 26Oct34

Boeing XB-15 with Boeing P-26

Thomas Morse O-19 over the Columbia River 13Apr34

Douglas O-46 91st OS 4Jan37

Curtiss P-1B 17th Pursuit Squadron 7Apr30

Douglas O-25C 91st OS

Charles Lindberg in Curtiss P-36A 38-102

WIXMOD-DELTA · **Joined:** Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:44 am **Posts:** 58

Very nice!
Thanks.

Chappie · **Joined:** Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:40 am **Posts:** 987

Fantastic. I love some of those between-the-wars & pre-war aircraft, especially the Y1B-17 and P-12.

Chappie

Cherrybomber13 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:15 am

Nice Mark! 1 question, who the hell mounted a B-17 on top of the Empire State Building?

Punisher05 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:52 am

Niiiiiiiice Mark...you always impress with your finds :drink3:

OK guys I have to show my ignorance for a second. What's the difference between the YB-17 and Model 299? Was 299 the initial prototype and the YB-17 the first production run?

-Brandon

DH82EH · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:11 am

Great stuff as always Mark.

Thank you

Andy Scott

daviemax · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:46 am

Punisher05 wrote:

Niiiiiiiice Mark...you always impress with your finds :drink3:

OK guys I have to show my ignorance for a second. What's the difference between the YB-17 and Model 299? Was 299 the initial prototype and the YB-17 the first production run?

-Brandon

Brandon

The model 299 is Boeing's internal design number allocated to the entire B-17 family. The first (prototype) 299 was the (unofficial) 'XB-17' that first flew 28 July 1935 and was entered in the Air Corps' bomber competition. This aircraft crashed due to pilot error (elevator gust locks were not released). The YB-17 was a service test version of the original prototype. Thirteen of these were ordered, along with a 14th airframe for static testing. When one of the YB's was inadvertently spun after encountering violent weather, it became evident the airframe could handle extreme loads, so the 14th aircraft was completed as a flying article, and equipped with turbo-superchargers as the YB-17A. The famous high-altitude capability of the B-17 is founded on this aircraft's development. Sometimes the YB family is shown as 'Y1' due to the funding process for them which included so-called 'F-1" funds. Hope this helps.

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7814

Your all mucho welcome as always and thx Mr. daviemax for the explanation. Good stuff. Here's a thread showing what davie is discussing.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=50976

daviemax · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:04 am

Thank you Mark, and thanks especially for the photos.

lmritger · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:31 am

Those are freakin' unbelievable, Mark. Absolutely beautiful, exactly as advertised.

Lynn

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7814

More from the series ...

North American O-47A 4Aug38

Douglas O-25B 30-161

Curtiss OC-2 A-7968 USMC, NAS San Diego 27Apr30

Bellanca C-27

Curtiss B-2 96th Bomb Squadron 11Apr30

Sikorsky C-6A 30-397 17Jan31 San Francisco

Lockheed A-29 1st PR Grp Alaska 1941

Douglas B-18

Douglas C-39

North American BC-1

North American O-47A

Punisher05 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:32 pm

daviemax wrote:

Punisher05 wrote:

Niiiiiiiice Mark...you always impress with your finds :drink3:

OK guys I have to show my ignorance for a second. What's the difference between the YB-17 and Model 299? Was 299 the initial prototype and the YB-17 the first production run?

-Brandon

Brandon

The model 299 is Boeing's internal design number allocated to the entire B-17 family. The first (prototype) 299 was the (unofficial) 'XB-17' that first flew 28 July 1935 and was entered in the Air Corps' bomber competition. This aircraft crashed due to pilot error (elevator gust locks were not released). The YB-17 was a service test version of the original prototype. Thirteen of these were ordered, along with a 14th airframe for static testing. When one of the YB's was inadvertently spun after encountering violent weather, it became evident the airframe could handle extreme loads, so the 14th aircraft was completed as a flying article, and equipped with turbo-superchargers as the YB-17A. The famous high-altitude capability of the B-17 is founded on this aircraft's development. Sometimes the YB family is shown as 'Y1' due to the funding process for them which included so-called 'F-1" funds. Hope this helps.

Very cool! Thanks for clearing that up for me. And thanks again Mark for the link to the Model 299 shots, what a clean looking bird...

-Brandon

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