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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:16 pm 
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Hola Tulio,

Really enjoy those photos you have taken during this trip. Please do keep 'em coming!

I understand you may be heading to Chino, California, shortly. Given the Planes of Fame Museum seems to store lots of warbird parts, any chance - if I may ask - you could check the availability of any spares, such as a main landing gear for the P-63E? As you know, the Museo del Aire has plans to restore to static display, its Kingcobra, cost permitting, sometime in the near future.
Will try to post a very recent photo of the aircraft.

Any information on the above will be greatly appreciated.

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 Post subject: FAH P-63E KingCobra
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:34 pm 
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FAH 503:

Any chance to place this bird under cover while all this restoration talk takes place?

Have you had the chance to inspect the airframe lately? If something is not done soon ..... there will be not much to restore! Photo BV c. 2005

p.s putting all politics aside.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:38 am 
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Try the Fighter Factory they have a couple of projects for sale.I'm after some P-39 doors and spinner i think the doors are the same as the P-63 but not sure.


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Amado:

I will do my best to try to find the parts you seek.

As we did with the F-4U5, when you guys are ready to build a shelter, I will be more than happy to contribute with a few dollars to this endeavor.

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Are P-39 gear the same? There were some P-39 gear recovered from a taxiway excavation project in Chino a couple of years ago. I think maybe two main gear, but I don't remember for sure. Not airworthy, but maybe good enough for a static display aircraft.

Stephen Grey also should have some parts left over from his P-39 restoration, as should Yanks.


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Mick, bdk:

Thanks very much guys for the great news. Will check and get back to you.


Tulio:

Many thanks. Your offer is greatly appreciated.

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 Post subject: P-63E Restoration
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:58 pm 
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FAH 503:

Well done!

As you can see your options are many. With tears in our eyes.. we 'll also pitch in for the move/restoration. We hope the P-39 parts will fit. (if found).

Let's see how the program goes next Thursday! C/W.com -)

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Mr. Carlos Planas, a.k.a. FAH 619:

Although the situation surrounding the restoration of the Museo del Aire de Honduras’ (MAH) P-63E has been sufficiently discussed and explained in the recent past at this very same forum, I will say this once and for all.

You seem to take every opportunity in as many discussion boards as possible, to criticize decisions approved by the majority of MAH members. This attitude no longer surprises those of us who are aware of your irregular activities, but such persistence really makes me wonder about the ulterior motives you may have. Allow me to explain why.

Every effort possible to raise funds is being undertaken, and will continue to take place, no matter the time involved or difficulties encountered, since as one can imagine, money does not come easy nowadays.

One such activity, the “Alas y Ruedas 2005” show (an aircraft and “classic” motor vehicle exposition), was held at the museum premises on October 21-23, 2005, to that specific effect.
Having yourself visited the show on October 22nd, you had the unique opportunity to express your concerns, in person, to the president and vice-president of the MAH board of directors. Instead, you preferred to have your picture taken in their company, thus taking the rest of the time to obtain authentic photographs of the exhibits, which without any doubt will become “material” for future criticism.
But for a self-appointed critic of MAH activities, your attitude that day, was really quite surprising:

I wonder why, instead of paying the US $ 1.57 entrance fee (thirty devaluated Lempiras) to the show, you preferred to “make your way in” using an “expositor” ID card? Your brother, German Planas, was indeed a Ford Mustang auto expositor, but you by no means were such.
We do not believe it was an outrageous contribution, don’t you think so?

Why did you not take the opportunity to become a member of the museum? It would not only entitle you to voice your concerns, and grant you the right to vote for or against specific actions and activities which you enjoy criticizing; it would also help finance the numerous projects (including that of the P-63) in the MAH agenda.
The monthly fee of a member, as you very well know, is a modest $ 5.26 payment (one hundred Lempiras). Another outrageous contribution or you simply have no interest in legitime museum preservation activities?
That is fine with us because we are not simply looking after the acquisition of funds … we actively search for people with a passion for aviation, which you obviously do not have.

I also wonder why you did you not materialize the “famous” (or should I say, infamous) 100 dollar contribution which for so many years you have been offering to the museum in many (why of course!) discussion boards?
As one can imagine, such modest contributions actually do help solve some of the situations which you seem to be so concerned about. Some people like yourself, have an evident passion for venting individual frustrations, or whatever, in discussion boards, but do very little to help ... to honestly help and contribute, if you understand what I mean.


Mr. Planas, you are not the only one concerned in placing the P-63 under cover. There is a very small group of people (members and volunteers) with real interest in fulfilling this project of museum (and not only in collecting photographs), and everyone has done and will do humanly possible efforts on our own spare time and with money from our very own pockets when necessary, to reach the desired goals and objectives.

Since you have evidently not shown genuine interest in following the steps of the museum members -other than being a perpetual critic-, I would suggest that you better leave the work and responsibility (by our own individual choice) to those with authentic and honest concerns in our aviation heritage.

You have the right to an opinion and the right to criticize; but there are proper places and opportunities for that matter, but you seem to have lost both. So please do not use discussion boards to tell us what to do.

You act like a “real tiger” behind that monitor and keyboard, but I understand that your attitude and movements within the museum premises that day, seemed more like that of a naive and very humble schoolboy.
What happened to the insidious criticism, and the arrogant and aggressive talk of yours? Pity and shame on you!

Amado Aguiluz F.


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Mr. Aguiluz:

Your restraint and patience with this individual have been commendable. In spite of repeated attacks, smart aleck comments and constant jabs, you have remained quiet.

Not me. I have the problem that I cannot suffer quietly people like these.

I have seen the photos where he is roaming the installations of FMAH, and I could not believe how chicken**** someone can be, who constantly criticizes an organization, but does not even contribute with the measly admission fee to the museum. A dollar fifty-seven . . . I can honestly say, that now, I have seen it all...

We can expect as his answer, a series of rambling, incoherent postings full of abbreviations, but with no real substance to them.

The important thing is that there are people who are actively WORKING to preserve not only the P-63 but also the other aircraft in the collection.

While I cannot afford to provide thousands of dollars in help, I will always do my best to contribute with as much as I can to preserve these historical airframes.

There is a real possibility that this posting will see me either banished or suspended from the WIX, but the price will be well worth it. The time has long past where we must expose those who only destroy, but do not contribute anything at all.

With my most sincere apologies to my fellow WIXers, who deserve my respect, for bringing -once again- this troublesome situation to the forum.

Tulio Soto

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Rg! -)

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Col. Rohr wrote:
Brandon does Aero Trader still have some of the left over 63 parts from POF restoration.
Don't get the Aero Trader connection. Square One did Borman's P-63, but that started as a relatively complete aircraft. Fighter Rebuilders worked on Pond's P-63 and a little bit on Grey's P-63 (RIP), but those were quite a few years back.

There is/was quite a bit of P-39 residue at Chino though.

Still wouldn't hurt to ask Aero Trader as they know what's where. They're good people.


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This is probably old news but the latest issue of Air Comics has an add for the Champlin Kingcobra bits and states the Champlin is the largers holder of Kingcobra parts in the world. True or no?


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Chad:

Champlin has indeed quite a bit of P-63 parts! However, they are sold as a pkg only...some $300,000+.

Anybody knows what happened to the vast collection of P-39s fuselages/parts of Dave Tallachet brought fm the S. Pacific?

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Kernel,

I have located a cockpit for the Corsair....

And I have a lead on landing gear for the P-63.

Did you get my voice message re: the buried B-24 in New Mexico?

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