Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:50 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:22 pm
Posts: 6
Hello all. First off, I'm new to the forum and am happy to be here. There's a wealth of knowledge here in these pages! I had a question about Sentimental Journey. Her top turret has a blue, what looks to be glare shield. I've always wondered why she has this and all the others do not?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:14 am 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:29 pm
Posts: 1484
Location: Stockton, California
I believe that the center optical panel on the top turret of Sentimental Journey has been green tinted plexiglas since it was installed many years ago. This is not original as the turrets came with clear plex that also had to meet standards for optical clarity. My guess is that they did it to reduce direct sun on the flight deck.

The Sperry A-1B in Sentimental Journey came from the Lacy B-17G in Oregon. They traded real turrets for Fiberglas replicas decades ago.

I hope this helps

_________________
To donate to the PV-2D project via PayPal click here http://www.twinbeech.com/84062restoration.htm

We brought her from: Image to this in 3 months: Image Help us get her all the way back Image

All donations are tax deductible as the Stockton Field Aviation Museum is a 501c3 nonprofit organization. Tell a friend as the Harpoon needs all the help she can get.

Thank you!

Taigh Ramey
Vintage Aircraft, Stockton, California
http://www.twinbeech.com
'KEEP ‘EM FLYING…FOR HISTORY!'


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:00 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:22 pm
Posts: 6
Thanks Taigh! I knew I could get the answer at this Forum. I suppose that's also the reason for the green upper flight deck windows on Mid Atlantic Air Museum's B-25 "Briefing Time"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:08 am 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:23 pm
Posts: 2953
Location: Somewhere South of New Jersey...
This came up years ago. I think the response from someone who works on the plane was along the lines of what Taigh said. The plane spends the majority of its time in Arizona where the Sun is three miles from the Earth. The green tint helps cut down on the intense heat/glare...

_________________
"Everyone wants to live here (New Jersey), evidenced by the fact that it has the highest population per capita in the U.S..."


Last edited by APG85 on Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:35 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:22 pm
Posts: 6
Thanks for the replies. Hey Taigh, I just saw you on an episode of Warplane on American History Channel! You were flying a B-25 with a couple of veteran Bombadier's dropping 100lb dummy bombs for a segment of the show. Awesome!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:15 am 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:11 pm
Posts: 1917
Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
Taigh Ramey wrote:
The Sperry A-1B in Sentimental Journey came from the Lacy B-17G in Oregon. They traded real turrets for Fiberglas replicas decades ago.

...and now the owners of that Portland B-17 are deeply regretting that move.

_________________
Life member, 91st BG Memorial Association
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former REMF (US Army, O3)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:46 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:18 pm
Posts: 3293
Location: Phoenix, Az
Art Lacey was pleased with the trade, a crew from AZ replaced a lot of plexiglass and did other repairs in exchange for the turret. Sentimental Journey has had the green tint panel on it since I helped to install it originally.
Image
Image
Image
Left to Right, Joe Dawkins, Matt Gunsch, Chuck Hoover

_________________
Matt Gunsch, A&P, IA, Warbird maint and restorations
Jack, You have Debauched my sloth !!!!!!
We tried voting with the Ballot box, When do we start voting from the Ammo box, and am I allowed only one vote ?
Check out the Ercoupe Discussion Group on facebook


Last edited by Matt Gunsch on Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:05 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:22 pm
Posts: 6
Thanks for all the great replies and pictures guys! There truly is a wealth of knowledge here at WIX!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:34 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:11 pm
Posts: 1917
Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
Matt Gunsch wrote:
Art Lacey was pleased with the trade, a crew from AZ replaced a lot of plexiglass and did other repairs in exchange for the turret.
Yes, it was a good trade at the time. But the people with the plane now aren't thrilled that it happened because they're left without some parts they now wish they had for the restoration.
But hindsight is always 20/20. Nobody would have gussed anyone would seriously think of restoring that B-17 to flying condition, at that point.

_________________
Life member, 91st BG Memorial Association
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former REMF (US Army, O3)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:42 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:18 pm
Posts: 3293
Location: Phoenix, Az
a story about them getting the turret, seems others had tried to buy it, but the AZ wing was the only group that offered more then money. They drove up there with new glass, and other supplies and did the repairs and glass replacements, removed the turrets and other parts that were in the deal. One morning the phone rang and Art answered it, well, it was someone wanting to buy the turret, Art said that he had someone they could talk to about it and handed the phone to the head of the AZ group, as soon as they said Hi, the caller, who was from the Confederate Air Force launched into a sales pitch as to why they needed to sell them the turret. Dave Dawkins, who was leading the AZ group up there answered, That's amazing, I'm with the Confederate Air Force as well, and just purchased the turret and then said it was for Sentimental Journey. If you have not guessed it yet, the caller was from the Texas Raiders.

_________________
Matt Gunsch, A&P, IA, Warbird maint and restorations
Jack, You have Debauched my sloth !!!!!!
We tried voting with the Ballot box, When do we start voting from the Ammo box, and am I allowed only one vote ?
Check out the Ercoupe Discussion Group on facebook


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot] and 56 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group