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 Post subject: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:47 pm 
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Any recent news on this one? I see in the registry it was being restored as of 2004 and the pics looked like progress was being made. What's happened since?

I know there has been a thread on this one but I couldn't seem to find it.

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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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Hmmm. One could almost be mistaken for thinking that you're not the biggest supporter of the CAF...

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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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I woke up this morning and thought I would see some news. Nah, just another axe grinding.

So, P-47N news anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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[quote="T J Johansen"]Hmmm. One could almost be mistaken for thinking that you're not the biggest supporter of the CAF...

Being the quick learner that I am, it only took me 35 years to become a X CAF member. It was great when we were the Confederate Air Force, but the last 6 or 8 years were too much.


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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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Still sitting in Cavanaugh's hangar awaiting a big pile of dollars to finish her....


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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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The P-47 is in one of the storage hangars at the Cavanaugh Museum. It isn't on public display. When I get time I am going to bring it over to the hangar in Dallas. It will be restored when there is money to do so. The airplane isn't being sold.

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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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T J Johansen wrote:
Hmmm. One could almost be mistaken for thinking that you're not the biggest supporter of the CAF...

Being the quick learner that I am, it only took me 35 years to become a X CAF member. It was great when we were the Confederate Air Force, but the last 6 or 8 years were too much.

Funnily enough, I still call them Confederate Air Force. Always will...

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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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Check Steve Browns' Used Warbird and Bait listing to see where it is.

Now that right there is funny! :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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Brad wrote:
The P-47 is in one of the storage hangars at the Cavanaugh Museum. It isn't on public display. When I get time I am going to bring it over to the hangar in Dallas. It will be restored when there is money to do so. The airplane isn't being sold.



Thank you, Brad. I wish you success with your plan.

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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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As a card carrying CAF member for two years now, I have an idea. It would make a lot of sense for the CAF to partner with another entity to restore and get the P-47N on the circuit. Since it is disassembled, this is the ideal time to put a second seat and controls in it. (yes, put an elongated canopy like the TF Sea Fury or?) Elmer Ward had a nice two place Bearcat ,( albeit briefly.) Then get it on the circuit.
Suggest talking to Nelson Ezell, Bill Klaers , or one of the other fine shops. This model of the P-47 had longer range and could still carry drop tanks. "Jugs" are much easier to fly and land than the P-51 and other tailwheel types. They have a much better safety record in civilian hands than other WW II types. Most of their emergency landings have been fuel related. It could be a big safe ride carrying, airshow machine. Plus, it can tell the story of both the Pacific and the war in Europe.
Would love to see it fly again!


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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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As a card carrying CAF member for two years now, I have an idea. It would make a lot of sense for the CAF to partner with another entity to restore and get the P-47N on the circuit. Since it is disassembled, this is the ideal time to put a second seat and controls in it. (yes, put an elongated canopy like the TF Sea Fury or?) Elmer Ward had a nice two place Bearcat ,( albeit briefly.) Then get it on the circuit.
Suggest talking to Nelson Ezell, Bill Klaers , or one of the other fine shops. This model of the P-47 had longer range and could still carry drop tanks. "Jugs" are much easier to fly and land than the P-51 and other tailwheel types. They have a much better safety record in civilian hands than other WW II types. Most of their emergency landings have been fuel related. It could be a big safe ride carrying, airshow machine. Plus, it can tell the story of both the Pacific and the war in Europe.
Would love to see it fly again!


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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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That's a great idea BUT, it is an experimental airplane, and, the FAA isn't handing out exemption letters. The cost and time to convert an airframe would take years. Just the engineering alone would consume time and money that would be better spent on getting it flying. While it is possible to petition for an exemption letter, and convert the airframe, we will probably be out of avgas by the time it is ready.

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As a card carrying CAF member for two years now, I have an idea. It would make a lot of sense for the CAF to partner with another entity to restore and get the P-47N on the circuit. Since it is disassembled, this is the ideal time to put a second seat and controls in it. (yes, put an elongated canopy like the TF Sea Fury or?) Elmer Ward had a nice two place Bearcat ,( albeit briefly.) Then get it on the circuit.
Suggest talking to Nelson Ezell, Bill Klaers , or one of the other fine shops. This model of the P-47 had longer range and could still carry drop tanks. "Jugs" are much easier to fly and land than the P-51 and other tailwheel types. They have a much better safety record in civilian hands than other WW II types. Most of their emergency landings have been fuel related. It could be a big safe ride carrying, airshow machine. Plus, it can tell the story of both the Pacific and the war in Europe.
Would love to see it fly again!

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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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I've flown in the back of a P-47. Maybe they should convert it into a razorback N-model?


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 Post subject: Re: CAF/ Cavanaugh P-47N
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Thanks to those with the response to the actual subject of the thread.


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