Interesting French Museum: AMPAA in Melun-Villaroche

Michel Lemieux · **Posted:** Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:57 am

Interesting French Museum: AMPAA in Melun-Villaroche

Found by fluke!!!! But they are working on a flightworthy Il-10 beast and they have quite a collection!

http://foxalphazoulou.overblog.com/2018/12/le-musee-d-aviation-de-melun-villaroche.html

http://www.ampaa.fr/?s=il-10

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ampaavillaroche/posts/

Michel Lemieux · **Posted:** Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:13 am

Nice video of the hangar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL3KHFQgBn4

DoraNineFan · **Joined:** Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:37 pm **Posts:** 672

The IL-10 is supposed to be a flying restoration with the original Mikulin AM-42 engine.

Michel Lemieux · **Posted:** Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:24 am

Cool...the hangar was actually designed by Eiffel himself!!!

flying transformers

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Michel Lemieux wrote:

Cool...the hangar was actually designed by Eiffel himself!!!

That's an interesting piece of trivia! You can see the familiar design elements.

What's this?

Michel Lemieux · **Posted:** Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:54 am

Firefly.

Dual cockpit trainer version

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

How cool! Thank you.

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 750

Wow, I've never heard of this museum before. This one is completely under the radar!

Lots of extremely rare types in there that I didn't know even existed.

Anybody know more about that SBD? Unless a new one "popped up" somewhere, the only ones available are from under water. Is this from an underwater recovery?

Nice to see the current status of that B-25 that caught on fire and made the forced landing in the field several years ago.

Wow, tons of rare stuff - 2 X IL-10's, Boly, Lysander, Ju-52, PBY, two place Firefly trainer, F-86, TBM, etc.

Can somebody give a breakdown on what is currently flyable, what is under restoration, and which are being restored to static vs. flyable?

Thanks for sharing!

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:22 pm

OD/NG wrote:

Wow, tons of rare stuff - 2 X IL-10's, Boly, Lysander, Ju-52, PBY, two place Firefly trainer, F-86, TBM, etc.

PBY? Don't see that. But I do see a SBD Dauntless. Any chance that that will be restored to flying condition too?

quemerford · **Joined:** Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:19 pm **Posts:** 1595

F-86? I don't see one...

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 750

Warbird Kid wrote:

OD/NG wrote:

Wow, tons of rare stuff - 2 X IL-10's, Boly, Lysander, Ju-52, PBY, two place Firefly trainer, F-86, TBM, etc.

PBY? Don't see that. But I do see a SBD Dauntless. Any chance that that will be restored to flying condition too?

The PBY is in the video referenced earlier at 4:17:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL3KHFQgBn4

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 750

quemerford wrote:

F-86? I don't see one...

It's on their facebook page on one of the entries from last summer. Maybe this particular one isn't owned by the museum but just supported one of the Museum's events - I don't know.

Joe Scheil · **Posted:** Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:55 pm

Certainly some interesting aircraft. The “PBY” is probably the HD-34 mis-identified due to its shape. there were 8 built for IGN to replace the B-17s involved in Photo survey work. The hangar appears to have a lot in it, but is not really directed to flightworthy restorations. The Lysander appears to be made of wood, and is a composite aircraft. The IL-10 is a static, and a restoration would be a large number for such an aircraft. A wild disparate collection of aircraft.

JohnTerrell · **Posted:** Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:20 pm

The Lysander looks real to me - all of the wood frames and stringers just as all of them have, no?

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 750

Joe Scheil wrote:

Certainly some interesting aircraft. The “PBY” is probably the HD-34 mis-identified due to its shape. there were 8 built for IGN to replace the B-17s involved in Photo survey work. The hangar appears to have a lot in it, but is not really directed to flightworthy restorations. The Lysander appears to be made of wood, and is a composite aircraft. The IL-10 is a static, and a restoration would be a large number for such an aircraft. A wild disparate collection of aircraft.

You need to look at the video I referenced. That is 100% not an HD-34 and certainly a PBY.

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