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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:57 pm 
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Profiling the Classic Rotors Museum, Ramona, CA

Can anybody fill in serial numbers or construction numbers?

Aerospatiale SA 341G Gazelle
Brantly 305
Hiller OH-23B Raven
Hiller H-32 Hornet
Jovair YH-30
Kaman HOK
Kamov Ka-26 Hoodlum
McCulloch 4E
Monte Copter 15
Piasecki HUP-1 Retriever
Piasecki H-25/HUP-1 Retriever
ROTON
RotorWay 133 Scorpion
Sikorsky H-19 Chickasaw
Sikorsky H-19D Whirlwind
Vertol H-21B Shawnee/54-4001
Vertol V-44B

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:40 pm 
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Wiki lists the H-25 turned HUP-3 as 51-16621...and hints that it is being restored to flight....but another Piasecki is painted with that serial in a Canadian museum. The real 52-16621 was the first HUP in the RCN. A Canadian museum traded the potentially airworthy aircraft for a non-airworthy example.

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Kamon, N2856J s/n 58-1840

Helicopter was formerly owned by Hawkins & Powers Aviation, H&P, Greybull WY, and sold to Classic Rotors around 2004.

The machine had been in storage in Greybull probably since the late 1970s. In the mid to late ‘90s, per Dan Hawkins’ request, we pushed the thing in the hangar and got after it. Work was sporadic over the years, as time allowed, as it wasn’t a priority with all that was going on. All of us, however, including Big Dan himself couldn’t wait to get it flying.

It was always great when Dan would join us at the bar on occasion during Wednesday “quarter beer” night at the Smokehouse in downtown Greybull, and yet even greater when the subject drifted towards the old Kamon days. I just wish I had a tape recorder, because a couple H&P/Kamon stories had us laughing so hard a few of us had beer coming out our nose.

By the end of summer 2001, we were so so so close to running the engine w/o the blades. Blades had been rejuvenated, engine was good to go, that monkey-motion synchronization shaft that connected both transmissions had been disassembled and inspected. The landing gear had been serviced, droop stops, etc. Unfortunately, it was never meant to be...

I’m not certain, Avery Aviation/Hawkins & Powers operated at least three Kamons, but I think that N2856J was in John Wayne’s Hellfighters in 1969. Dan flew the helicopter during filming in the Casper Wyoming area. I have the wide screen edition that depicts the cockpit scene with Dan, and four other cast members.

Upon completion of the Casper filming, Dan was getting ready to ferry the Kamon back to Greybull. Before he left the location, a fellow pilot who was flying a Jet Ranger (not owned by H&P) camera ship was himself preparing to depart for Lewistown MT. Somehow, some way, a bet was made as to who would to Greybull first: The Kamon or the Jet Ranger. Long story short, I was told that Dan BEAT the 206, which, to this day, I still can’t figure that one out, other than maybe the Jet Ranger pilot got lost enroute... Anyway, Dan hit a torrential rain shower somewhere along the way. Soon after, he could hear whistling sounds. As the blades wound down on the ramp at the South Bighorn County Airport in Greybull, it became evident the rain had raised havoc. The fabric had been shredded from root to tip and I suspect if it had been anybody else, a severe back-side chewing would have been in order....


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:59 am 
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58-1840 was the final H-43A and likely the final piston Kaman.

I remember reading somewhere (possibly in Kaman Rotor Tips the company publication dad would occasionally bring home) that heavy rain was to be avoided in Kamans because of possible blade damage.
At the time it seemed an odd limitation for a rescue machine.

Now I understand aviation meteorology better, I understand you wouldn't be flying with limited visibility, but still...

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A quick check of the FAA registry shows only one Sikorsky H-19 with the museum, 57-5962 registered as N2256G. This one was rebuilt by Orlando Helicopter Airways in February 1979 for Window Rock Airways. As with any S-55 rebuilt by OHA, identification is always questionable as dataplates were often swapped amongst airframes. There’s a photo online of N2256G at the museum in 2010. Unfortunately, the museum does not appear to keep its website updated.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:23 pm 
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Craig59 wrote:
Unfortunately, the museum does not appear to keep its website updated.


Yeah, it desperately needs a redesign and update.

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Scott,
A quick cut and paste from the 2019 edition of USA Military Out of Service is below.
Andy

Outside
84-0076 Gates C-21A N506HL Jan14 Oct18
158256 Bell HH-1N [AN7H0252] (N441PA) 14Mar19
57-1646 Sikorsky CH-37B (N51900) Oct13 Oct18
1395 Sikorsky HH-52A San Francisco [46 012] Sep16 Oct18
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(125516) Sikorsky HO5S-1 (N9433H) 12 Mar18
111812 Piasecki HRP-1 13 Oct18
51-16621 Piasecki HUP-3 ex RCN (N7089F) a/w Nov00 Oct18
(65-12917) Hughes OH-6 NOTAR civil c/s Nov16 Oct18
(57-5962) Sikorsky UH-19D N2256G Feb02 Oct18
54-4001 Vertol CH-21B N64606 a/w Jan90 Oct18
(O-1) Hiller H-23B c/n 729, 2.23.55, ex 54-2935 N7299 May01 Oct18
Hiller YH-32 (c/n 15) N3955 Aug04 Oct18
(58-1840) Kaman HH-43A N2856J Oct02 Oct18
(157688) 02 Boeing HH-46E N57688 8Mar16 Oct18
(64-18121) Hughes TH-55A (N48155) Feb12 Sep16
1972 Sud Alouette III ex France (N6UH) Feb12 Oct18
(FR112) Sud SO1221 Djinn c/n 62 F-BRGC Feb05 Oct18
(XV639) /612 Westland Wasp HAS.1 (N612VH) damaged Apr05 Oct18


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:15 am 
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Andy Marden wrote:
Scott,
A quick cut and paste from the 2019 edition of USA Military Out of Service is below.
Andy

Outside
84-0076 Gates C-21A N506HL Jan14 Oct18
158256 Bell HH-1N [AN7H0252] (N441PA) 14Mar19
57-1646 Sikorsky CH-37B (N51900) Oct13 Oct18
1395 Sikorsky HH-52A San Francisco [46 012] Sep16 Oct18
Inside
(125516) Sikorsky HO5S-1 (N9433H) 12 Mar18
111812 Piasecki HRP-1 13 Oct18
51-16621 Piasecki HUP-3 ex RCN (N7089F) a/w Nov00 Oct18
(65-12917) Hughes OH-6 NOTAR civil c/s Nov16 Oct18
(57-5962) Sikorsky UH-19D N2256G Feb02 Oct18
54-4001 Vertol CH-21B N64606 a/w Jan90 Oct18
(O-1) Hiller H-23B c/n 729, 2.23.55, ex 54-2935 N7299 May01 Oct18
Hiller YH-32 (c/n 15) N3955 Aug04 Oct18
(58-1840) Kaman HH-43A N2856J Oct02 Oct18
(157688) 02 Boeing HH-46E N57688 8Mar16 Oct18
(64-18121) Hughes TH-55A (N48155) Feb12 Sep16
1972 Sud Alouette III ex France (N6UH) Feb12 Oct18
(FR112) Sud SO1221 Djinn c/n 62 F-BRGC Feb05 Oct18
(XV639) /612 Westland Wasp HAS.1 (N612VH) damaged Apr05 Oct18


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I made a post on a Wikipedia talk page about their YH-32s a while ago that I imagine would be very useful.

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