new f-22 canopy glitch traps pilot

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:00 pm

1 of our new f-22 raptors recently had a canopy glitch that trapped the pilot for 5 hours. firemen had to cut the canopy to free him. total damage 1.28 million dollars. your tax dollars....... :toimonster:

Tigercat · **Joined:** Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:54 am **Posts:** 288

Is this another one? I remember reading about this happening several months ago.

Paul Krumrei · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:06 pm **Posts:** 1757

This is old news.

oshosh84 · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 10:01 pm **Posts:** 90

Very old news. Things like this are going to happen in an aircraft that has just recently gone into service.
still happens in other aircraft(f-15, -16)

The official release from the AF said it was cheaper than blowing the canopy.

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:05 pm

1st i heard of it!!

Tom Crawford · **Posted:** Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:44 pm

That's okay Tom...It's news to me too.
Tom

PhantomAce08 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:49 pm

tom d. friedman wrote:

total damage 1.28 million dollars. your tax dollars....... :toimonster:

That is exactly what I thought when I first heard about it too! :shock:

Randy Haskin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:50 pm

Maybe you guys should start throwing a protest about the F-14...after all, the prototype crashed on its first flight, "wasting" about $15 million. How about that F-117...both the prototypes crashed!! A couple of the production airplanes packed it in when the flight control computers died, too! What a turkey! Both airplanes must be a total waste of money if you ask me.

:roll:

By the way...before you guys start having an aneurysm about the F-22 canopy, the airplane was still under warranty and Lockheed paid for the new canopy.

APG85 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:55 pm

Airplanes and everything associated with them are not cheap...

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:00 pm

Quote:

Maybe you guys should start throwing a protest about the F-14...after all, the prototype crashed on its first flight, "wasting" about $15 million. How about that F-117...both the prototypes crashed!! A couple of the production airplanes packed it in when the flight control computers died, too! What a turkey! Both airplanes must be a total waste of money if you ask me.

Randy,
You left a few out.......Boeing 299 (B-17), XB-29, P-38, P-51, P-47, F4U
and I'm sure there others

Larry Kraus · **Posted:** Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:07 am

My brother works with F-22's at Edwards AFB.He sent me a slide show that documents a fire fighting crew cutting the pilot out of the airplane with a chain saw.I'm not smart enough to figure out how to post it on this site,but I did send a copy to Tom Friedman's e-mail as a 1.5 MB attachment.The narrative says that the canopy replacement cost was $182,000+,and there was some peripheral damage,but I think that the million $ plus estimate was far too high.

Originalboxcar · **Posted:** Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:09 am

Courtesy of militaryphotos.net:

Reportedly, this instance happened as a result of a "loose screw", something I hope I'll never be accused of having :shock:

A little loctite should have cured this problem eh?

Incidentally, we should always bear in mind that bugs WILL crop up in real world testing that can't YET be simulated or programmatically analyzed. We also need to give credit to those who day in and day out, strap themselves into these machines for our benefit despite that fact.

more pics here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... anopy.html

regards,

t~

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