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Since people seem to think that the off-topic section is for political discussion, something that is frowned upon, I have temporarily closed the section. ANY political discussions in any other forum will be deleted and the user suspended. I have had it with the politically motivated comments.
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The Boy in Striped Pajamas

Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:54 am

I saw this movie yesterday. If it's in a theater near you, GO SEE IT. One of the best movies I've seen in quite awhile. It really brings a unique perspective to life in Nazi Germany and brings certain aspects that have been absent in similar movies.

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Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:18 pm

That is a very good movie, one every adult ought to see. Not exactlly light comedy, and not for the kids.
THE CHANGLEING is another good one. Both sure have a lot more to offfer than the new Bond thing.

Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:28 pm

Good movie. A little slow and the English accents were a little hard to get past. This is a good film to take kids to as I did (ages of my kids 12,10 and 9) after a bit of silence in the car ride home, conversation opened wide up. I think they needed some time to really grasp the weight of the end. It was good that they were asking lots of questions thanks to the movie.

kids?

Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:47 am

It doesn't seem right to expose young kids to this, there are horrible things in the world, but I don't think a 9 year old needs to focus on them yet. On the other hand if I was teaching history or govt to high school seniors, I'd want them all to see this movie.

As for being slow, well it is a movie that makes one think, not just a slam crash car chase sword fight shoot em up type, that you won't remember a week later. I saw the Bond one a couple of weeks ago and I can't even remember what the villan looked like, what clothes they wore, and barely remember the girl.

It is not the main point of the movie, but a side view is the whole idea of war and duty of a military man to your country. You are following orders, being patriotic, but what if the orders come from a madman? What if the ideas you are told are lies? What if you though being a soldier meant fighting an enemy in open combat and instead it comes to mean dropping the gas canister on Jews? Or in our case torturing prisoners? Situations like this try to substitute the nation or whatever dictator runs it, for the individual's inherent sense of right and wrong. I think that is one of the main points where I differ from our military and even at our worst, we don't approach what the Nazis or Japanese did.

Re: kids?

Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:47 pm

Bill Greenwood wrote:It doesn't seem right to expose young kids to this, there are horrible things in the world, but I don't think a 9 year old needs to focus on them yet. On the other hand if I was teaching history or govt to high school seniors, I'd want them all to see this movie.

As for being slow, well it is a movie that makes one think, not just a slam crash car chase sword fight shoot em up type, that you won't remember a week later. I saw the Bond one a couple of weeks ago and I can't even remember what the villan looked like, what clothes they wore, and barely remember the girl.

It is not the main point of the movie, but a side view is the whole idea of war and duty of a military man to your country. You are following orders, being patriotic, but what if the orders come from a madman? What if the ideas you are told are lies? What if you though being a soldier meant fighting an enemy in open combat and instead it comes to mean dropping the gas canister on Jews? Or in our case torturing prisoners? Situations like this try to substitute the nation or whatever dictator runs it, for the individuals inherent sense of right and wrong. I think that is one of the main points where I differ from our military and even at our worst, we don't approach what the Nazis or Japanese did.


That is what makes this a great country, we are free to decide right and wrong for ourselves and children. My choice is just that. My choice was not decided on the afore mentioned reason but based on the fact that our schools do not teach more then "there was a war and we won." I had no idea there was war going on in Alaska until I graduated. They brushed over Stalin killing more people then the Nazis did. (I am not putting a shiny spin on what Hitler did.) Another fact that is not taught in school is that not all Germans believed in Hitler and the Nazis. It was implied that all Germans and Japanese were evil and would stop at nothing short of ruling the world! So if my kids go to school and bring up what they saw at the movie and it opens up discussion, maybe it will start the thinking process in another young mind?

Sorry you wasted your money on Bond, I don't even bother with that type of crap. I don't need a slam bam thank you mam movie to keep my attention. I did not say that it was so slow that I was wondering if I left the coffee maker on.

Following orders is one thing when the cause is just and right. But when you slaughter millions of people because your C/O told you to is no reason to nor is it patriotic! All of us have a sense of right and wrong its your choice to do the right thing or not.

My decision to teach my kids the truth as I understand it and not shelter them, and guide them threw their decision process is my duty to them. I want them to be free to think and see things and make up their own minds, with my guidance. Hopefully they will do the same for their kids .
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