Military Phonies & Wannabies...this will make you angry!

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:57 am

True..but this guy was like an over-enthusiastic puppy. I couldn't even finish answering a question before he'd have two more.

SN

k5083 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:11 am

Steve Nelson wrote:

True..but this guy was like an over-enthusiastic puppy. I couldn't even finish answering a question before he'd have two more.

As a sometime lecturer, I value those people more than their weight in gold.

August

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:40 am

steven nelson has the right approach...... if you are within an earhot of a miss informed person or talking to them just smile & knod, cause they are probably set in their ways like concrete hardens.

Eric Friedebach · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:43 am

k5083 wrote:

1. How do we get the true facts out to people in an effective way that won't raise hackles or injure pride?

2. Or, is it even worth bothering? Does this type of misinformation matter at all in the greater scheme of things?

August

I suppose it depends on the person’s interest level, August.

One time, a software engineer stopped by while I was trying to figure out which hydraulic line went where. I tried to explain what I was doing and some of the systems, but probably not doing a very good job of that.

The analogy I used was that each piece of tubing was like a line of computer code. I think that may have helped. I know what raw HTML looks like, and it gives me headache thinking about it. The hell hole in a T-28 is a fun place for me (usually).

Jack Cook wrote:

We were at a show once and FIFI was on static so I went over and took at look at her. There was a man with his son by the nose and he was filling the boy's head with all sorts of knowledge (aka BS). Has I walked by I overheard him say "Yeah son, those were the good days flying the ol F1-F1" :shock:

and all I could think was you knit whit that's the name of the freaking airplane

Jack, don’t you remember? That was ME trying to impress the airshow groupie!

Eric Friedebach wrote:

I was at an airshow, standing by the crowd fence and talking to a nice looking woman about all the planes flying around. She seemed impressed by my knowledge.

There were a couple of other guys standing nearby. I guess they were listening to what I was saying too, because they were smiling at me.

Well one of the big planes flew by and I didn’t know what kind it was. I saw that it had large identification markings on the side, so I was able to tell the woman it was an F-1F1 airplane.

Right at that moment the two guy starting laughing like crazy and walked away. Just what the heck was that all about?

O.P. · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:16 pm

jpeters wrote:

One of the most f*cked-up things I saw when I was in the Army was a 35 year old Private Second Class E-2, fresh out of basic training (again), wearing a Drill Sergeant Badge on his uniform. I kid you not...this guy was for real and was authorized to wear it.

This guy was prior service and had been in for like 7 years before getting out. He had been to drill sergeant school and was a former drill instructor. He eventually came back into the Army but was forced to go back to basic training again and also lost all his prior rank (He had been an E-5 when he got out the first time). Most people don't know that if you're prior service and have been out over 5 years, you have to go back through basic training again. Also, if you've been out long enough you go back in as a private. :roll:

I guess this guy must've been through some hard times to resort to starting at the bottom rung again. What was really funny was seeing this dummy trying to act like a drill sergeant to everybody else in order to get some respect. Of course we all just laughed at him and gave him a hard time every chance we got. :lol:

John

Heheeee, I did 8 years in the Submarine Force, got out, and went into the Army. Lost a couple of stripes doing it. Did boot camp over from square one. They made me a specialist,,,heheeeee, I took the insigna off because they kept on yelling at me, calling me college boy, and making me do crappy stuff. It was pretty funny when we had our dress uniform inspection and it turns out that I had more time in than 1 of my drill instructors (the @sshole one) and had a half a zillion ribbons ,medals, hash marks, dolphins and that kinda crap to shut every one there up. The Major stopped the inspection just to talk to me for ten minutes.....heheeeee

I love the Army

Former Member · **Joined:** Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:40 pm **Posts:** 1493

We had a couple prior service guys in basic and AIT that also had more ribbons than some of the drill sergeants. The drills didn't like it of course and told the guys they couldn't wear the ribbons during inspection which we all knew was B.S.

Probably the worst experience I had was while I was detailed to work as an Army recruiter. Hardly anybody in the Army volunteers for recruiting duty because they know how crappy and tough the assignment is. Therefore the Dept. of the Army has to involuntarily select soldiers to do recruiting duty for 3 year stints. While on recruiting duty I was promoted to SFC/E-7 and was just trying to "survive" and complete my 3 years so I could go back to my old job.

Shortly after getting promoted we got a new recruiting station commander that was a SSG/E-6 and had been a prior Marine. This guy was a converted full-time recruiter which meant that that was his regular job. Most of these converted recruiters were fat, lazy, and worthless pieces of sh*t trying to hide out on recruiting duty because they couldn't hack it in a regular line unit. This clown was no exception...he acted like he was still in the Marines and took a huge dislike to me because I outranked him and he was technically my boss (I couldn't have cared less). It's sad to say that recruiting duty is the only place in the Army where rank means nothing.

John

Former Member · **Joined:** Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:40 pm **Posts:** 1493

We had a couple prior service guys in basic and AIT that also had more ribbons than some of the drill sergeants. The drills didn't like it of course and told the guys they couldn't wear the ribbons during inspection which we all knew was B.S.

Probably the worst experience I had was while I was detailed to work as an Army recruiter. Hardly anybody in the Army volunteers for recruiting duty because they know how crappy and tough the assignment is. Therefore the Dept. of the Army has to involuntarily select soldiers to do recruiting duty for 3 year stints. While on recruiting duty I was promoted to SFC/E-7 and was just trying to "survive" and complete my 3 years so I could go back to my old job.

Shortly after getting promoted we got a new recruiting station commander that was a SSG/E-6 and had been a prior Marine. This guy was a converted full-time recruiter which meant that that was his regular job. Most of these converted recruiters were fat, lazy, and worthless pieces of sh*t trying to hide out on recruiting duty because they couldn't hack it in a regular line unit. This clown was no exception...he acted like he was still in the Marines and took a huge dislike to me because I outranked him and he was technically my boss (I couldn't have cared less). It's sad to say that recruiting duty is the only place in the Army where rank means nothing.

John

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:54 am

my old neighbor had the toughest recruiting job of them all!! a career recruiter, & man could he do it!!! he recruited specifically medical personel. now, i ask you....only the king of salesmen / recruiters could enlist a doctor with captain's bars for $65000.00 per year as upposed to the recruit settling for $150.000 minimum in private practice. my old neighbor is now retired, full benefits, sells insurance for fun $$$$ & hops every usaf transport to golf world wide.

Waltz41 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:41 am

rwdfresno wrote:

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It also really angers me when people do it half-@$$ed...like go to the lengths of having the right shirt, pants, belt, but then wear Timberland boots or something.

Funny how people differ. I was always annoyed with the people who would come up and complain about this or that inaccuracy about someones uniform. After I quit wearing rank insignias I would get every self anointed authority on military uniforms pointing it out. People complaining about the size of pockets on an A2 jacket or the color or softness of the leather. Don't even get me started on the "right" color of OD canvas debate. Anyways, different strokes for different folks I suppose.

there's a huge difference between wearing timberlands and size of pockets on A-2's!!! I really don't like "Thread Nazi's" as we call them in our unit, it just defeats the purpose. I really think there should be a line that must be drawn, but most of the public doesn't even know what the heck an HBT shirt is let alone the differences between the first and third patterns.

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